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What does an average expedition yield?

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Fia Magrath
The Clown Inquisition
#1 - 2013-09-30 17:46:27 UTC
Yesterday evening i blew up an unrated anomaly out of boredom and received an expedition which went straight to nullsec. Today i fit a very expendable frig and went after it! The loot along the way was rather pathetic but i stuck to it and few dozen jumps and rats later i reached the final destination which yielded a few a type frig modules worth around 60m.

As far as i can understand this was a rather bottom shelf expedition (being able to kill it easily in a t1 frig which turns out was overtanked). My question is how does that expeditions difficulty and lewt compare to other ones? Would it be worth making a career out of it?
Nassau Adtur
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-09-30 19:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Nassau Adtur
Fia Magrath wrote:
Yesterday evening i blew up an unrated anomaly out of boredom and received an expedition which went straight to nullsec. Today i fit a very expendable frig and went after it! The loot along the way was rather pathetic but i stuck to it and few dozen jumps and rats later i reached the final destination which yielded a few a type frig modules worth around 60m.

As far as i can understand this was a rather bottom shelf expedition (being able to kill it easily in a t1 frig which turns out was overtanked). My question is how does that expeditions difficulty and lewt compare to other ones? Would it be worth making a career out of it?

You always can read about certain expedition, complex etc in wiki on official site. Or Google it by name.

Expeditions and DED complexes are noticeably more profitable than unrated complexes/anomalies. However it heavily depends on your ship, system, corp etc. For example it can be better to farm Sanctums in semi-AFK mode on a carrier than spend 6 hours trying to find a DED complex in high sec.

Doing complexes and expeditions is one of the most profitable careers in EVE. And it is much more fun than grinding old good L4 missions or farm anomalies. However you have to learn many things if u want to be successful and get good profit. So whilst being fun and profitable this path requires good knowledge and good skills.

Hope it helped.

Oh, and some addition:
1. Almost all expeditions/complexes can be done solo. However if u run in low/null secs u will need a scout or at least properly fitted T3.

2. From my last expedition (Ancient city) we got 1.5kkk as items and good bounty. But sometimes you get nothing. Pretty much like gamble :p
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#3 - 2013-10-01 00:35:19 UTC
The expeditions from unrateds usually break* or don't start to begin with - ie your expectation of completing the escalation and seeing the deadspace loot roll when starting an unrated is probably less than quarter of that for a ded, and it also takes far longer due to the travel time. Overseers in unrateds often don't have an OPE either. OPE not important to highsec deds, but ded 5 onwards they make quite a difference to the per run average.

For each ded there is usually an unrated escalation that goes to a conclusion with the same loot table, but it will be in lower security space and/or a long way from where you live.

*a few unrateds have guarenteed escalations**

** they are usually damn hard.

Fia Magrath
The Clown Inquisition
#4 - 2013-10-01 00:49:00 UTC
yeah.. just got the same expedition again and this time the final frigate didnt even drop anything. On the other hand i've done around 5 3/10 and a couple 4/10 ded sites and havent gotten anything worth more than a few million.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#5 - 2013-10-01 01:09:06 UTC
Fia Magrath wrote:
yeah.. just got the same expedition again and this time the final frigate didnt even drop anything. On the other hand i've done around 5 3/10 and a couple 4/10 ded sites and havent gotten anything worth more than a few million.


Yeah its a streaky activity, though the streaks on deds are rarely more than about 5 with or 5 without, and you can get multiple modules drop too.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#6 - 2013-10-01 02:26:29 UTC
Nassau Adtur wrote:
For example it can be better to farm Sanctums in semi-AFK mode on a carrier than spend 6 hours trying to find a DED complex in high sec.


Nassau Adtur wrote:
Doing complexes and expeditions is one of the most profitable careers in EVE.


Contradict much?
Nassau Adtur
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-10-01 04:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nassau Adtur
Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:
Nassau Adtur wrote:
For example it can be better to farm Sanctums in semi-AFK mode on a carrier than spend 6 hours trying to find a DED complex in high sec.


Nassau Adtur wrote:
Doing complexes and expeditions is one of the most profitable careers in EVE.


Contradict much?

Not really. There is a big difference between doing high lvl DED-plexes in friendly claimed null secs with a good knowledge of region, good ships etc, and searching for complexes somewhere near Jita in a small T1 exploration frigate.

For example if you can run L4 missions then doing expeditions in high sec is probably not worth of it at all. At least it was so for me. You still have to travel a lot but even at best your loot will be 200kk. Or probably much less. However doing expeditions in null secs requires a bit more time (assuming you do them using two accounts) but your reward is much better.
Gh0stBust3rs
Templars HIghsec
Stellar Fusion
#8 - 2013-10-01 10:10:18 UTC
Its all a crap shoot. You can get good drops or nothing.


Prime example i contract out all my 10/10 The Mazes. Generally i get 50% of the loot which is about 200m on average. Great drops can get to 600m cuts.

Most of the time its 200-400m though. Still worth my effort to have someone run it
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#9 - 2013-10-01 10:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: l0rd carlos
Sometimes you get 500millions in 10 minutes, sometimes you get 150million in 3 hours. Some days ago I did a 5/10 in under 40 minutes and got ~700mil out of it.

As for lowsec DED sites exploration, I __GUESS__ the average is 80mil/h or more. It's hard for me to tell.

It's fun for me though, much better than missions or running anoms. To each his own.

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#10 - 2013-10-01 10:58:16 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:


It's fun for me though, much better than missions or running anoms. To each his own.


There is a post mission phase in many players career where that really does become true.