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Worst ship in game?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-09-30 09:03:45 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sentinel.

Haven't seen one for six or seven years now.


Hmmm that's odd, because I'm advised that the big problem with Sentinels is that you'll never get another frigate to 1v1 you if you're in one.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-09-30 09:54:08 UTC
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
phoenix


Phoenix takes far less SP to fly than the other dreads, it's pretty fair that it's a lot worse.
Galen Draz
Legion of Fallen Soldiers
#23 - 2013-09-30 18:13:33 UTC
Proteus. worst looking ship if it has a point range sub system fitted.
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#24 - 2013-09-30 18:18:25 UTC
Xequecal wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
phoenix


Phoenix takes far less SP to fly than the other dreads, it's pretty fair that it's a lot worse.


Why does it take far less SP?


My opinion would have to be the Primae also though. Absolutely worthless ship.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-09-30 18:23:28 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
phoenix


Phoenix takes far less SP to fly than the other dreads, it's pretty fair that it's a lot worse.


Why does it take far less SP?


My opinion would have to be the Primae also though. Absolutely worthless ship.


A little less weapon skill required to get to the capital ones because of the way the missile tree is built. Maybe more but I dunno about that.
Sean Apollo
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#26 - 2013-09-30 18:29:08 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Sean Apollo wrote:
I would have to say the logi frigs are just plain out worthless. I have yet to see them be at all useful.

Maybe one day they will do an AT with frigs only Roll


they aren't that awful really, we have used them a few times.

Although literally the only reason you would is because the ycan enter all the same plexes as your frig gang.



That is possibly the only reason i could think of someone using it. Its just a bad ship. But i do see what your saying but how many times would someone bring that and not just bring another dps ship with a self rep?

Most people hate me...
Sean Apollo
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#27 - 2013-09-30 18:31:07 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Sentinel.

Haven't seen one for six or seven years now.


Hmmm that's odd, because I'm advised that the big problem with Sentinels is that you'll never get another frigate to 1v1 you if you're in one.


Going off of what Malcanis said. If you flew this ship you would understand. BTW it has been used quite a bit for small gang pvp and the AT.

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JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#28 - 2013-09-30 18:33:07 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Succubus


I second the motion of Suckubus.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Sean Apollo
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#29 - 2013-09-30 18:37:21 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Goldensaver wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
phoenix


Phoenix takes far less SP to fly than the other dreads, it's pretty fair that it's a lot worse.


Why does it take far less SP?


My opinion would have to be the Primae also though. Absolutely worthless ship.


A little less weapon skill required to get to the capital ones because of the way the missile tree is built. Maybe more but I dunno about that.


About the phoenix sucking. I am guessing you guys did not hear about a fit for it that was destroying Hacs? This ship is by far not a bad ship.

Should it be better? Maybe.

Most people hate me...
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-09-30 23:16:26 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
phoenix


Phoenix takes far less SP to fly than the other dreads, it's pretty fair that it's a lot worse.


Why does it take far less SP?


- No Small/Medium Racial turret needed to V.
- Torpedoes takes less SP than Large Racial Turret.
- Doesn't need armor compensation skills.
- Missile support skills not related to damage are far less important to it than the gunnery versions are to the other 3 dreads.
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#31 - 2013-10-01 02:14:25 UTC
Xequecal wrote:

- No Small/Medium Racial turret needed to V.

Don't need those for gunnery dreads anyways. It's not like there are T2 XL guns anyways. Just need large V (just like missile skills).


Xequecal wrote:

- Torpedoes takes less SP than Large Racial Turret.

This is true... by one rank, Torps is a rank 4, large turret of choice is a rank 5.

Xequecal wrote:

- Doesn't need armor compensation skills.

This is true, but that's only because the shield comp skills are now trash.

Xequecal wrote:

- Missile support skills not related to damage are far less important to it than the gunnery versions are to the other 3 dreads.

I completely disagree here. Unless it's alright to have damage mitigated against structures, and have other caps running around speed tanking your missiles (and gunnery dreads coasting into siege also speed tanking).
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-10-01 06:32:06 UTC
Even since the changes, have Eagles been seen outwith captivity and old, grainy documentaries?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#33 - 2013-10-01 11:54:29 UTC
Reaper, not even good compared to the other Rookie Ships.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Bobinu
Unsober
Last Picks
#34 - 2013-10-01 12:00:16 UTC
Freighters, everytime I fly one I think bad things!!
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