Sell Orders

Quit feeding the troll / scammer / subpar webdev and let this thread die already (as I add to the pile, again).

Hello Elizabeth Norn,

About the lottery website, It was originally $500. I actually coded for a Chinese client on the Singularity server. It fell through though and he didn't want to pay for it. As a result, I created a thread offering to sell the software I had developed. He purchased it, and then paid another $500 to update it. The update hasn't been applied yet, but as a result of the lack of update, the site hasn't been marketed very consistently yet.

You're right. His "extreme" offer was quite kind of him. It's because believe it or not, I'm a nice person. We have actually become friends as a result of working together on discussing ideas for his lotto website. Also, he's kind of a mentor. He is a director of web developers at his work, and I am a young developer who changes him cheap prices for hobby work. I asked him to reference me to show you guys I'm not a scammer. He was happy to help me.

About the 3rd party holding payment. My company requires all clients to pay US 60% up front. I am willing to make an exception with this project considering how large it is. For small projects, you will have to make the payment or we won't work with you. Honestly, business is good right now. If I wanted another project with some guy telling me what to do, I'd pick up another client. So you don't have much grounds for negotiation here. I'm more than willing to say no.

The ISK for motivation yes. And the connection. Why did you completely forget that part? I dedicated an entire paragraph to it. Perhaps its your bias that's forgetting?

The website that doesn't exist yet? I'm selling two things here. A vision, and my services to bring that vision to life. It can do great things because it's a great idea. I know how unwilling you are to offer me that little bit of kindness, but I wouldn't be in the position I am if I relied on the opinions of others to guide the confidence I put in the decisions I make.

Hi Vistrix Starshadow,

First thing, yes, there are errors on the SoulCreative hosted Lotto site since obviously we now work on the project at the official lotto website. You're looking at a link from an old thread. So desperate to discredit you are.

Also, yes, it did receive 30b isk in quite a short time, and then we stopped promoting the website because we wanted to do the next update for it. It has taken some time to do that update because like I said, this is a hobby project. He only paid $500. We work on it when we have time. We currently have much higher paying clients right now who take precedence.

You wouldn't know what is fishy or not. You know nothing about development or my company. You troll me this entire day trying to point out flaws for what reason? Someone with a mind that thinks in the way yours does certainly cannot afford what I'm offering here.

Elizabeth Norn

Look, I have made my offer. I'm already beginning on the work since I'm really in the mood to develop this as a result of all this talking about it. You can think as you like.

No, you can't use a 3rd party. You are, however, free to have a look at my portfolio, and even take a peak at some of our current work. You will find our company is reputable. If that isn't evidence enough, than I'm sorry. Also, no, my boyfriend isn't the designer of my company. I don't have a boyfriend.

I've already offered a payment solution that solves the trust issue. If you don't like it, that's your problem. I've already gotten a couple evemails from interested clients.

You know, when I was selling my Lotto system on these forums, people made the same argument. It still sold, and look, that same buyer is in this thread saying I'm to be trustworthy. You think because a couple people show skepticism on this thread, that interested parties aren't contacting me privately? Think again. I'm not desperate because I don't need to be.

This is getting monotonous answering the same questions over and over. I think I will stop posting on this thread.

From this point on, if anyone would like to contact me with questions, you can eve mail me.

I don't know what portfolio you guys think you are looking at, but our recent projects are as follows:

http://yswine.com - A website for a small Italian wine company based in China.
http://hainanuniversity.com - The first website of our business. I got free tuition in Chinese at the uni in exchange for making this.
http://luna.soulcreative.org - This is an active web community for sociopaths. I own it, and my company wrote the code from scratch.
http://scovillescale.co.uk - This is the website I sold to the nice man who vouched for me earlier in the thread.

In about a week, we will finish up our latest project for a Chinese commercial tourism website, and I'll post that as well at that time.

Forgive me for not being able to properly quote every quote, because these forums have a limit of 5 quotes per post.



I'm tired of this. I don't care if I'm wrong and will be made to look like a fool and regret this post after a good sleep, in fact I welcome that because it depresses me less to know someone isn't as terrible at this as I think they are.

Please see http://www.wikihow.com/Lie and read 3, 6, 7, 10, 11 and 14 specifically (13 and 14 especially), 10 and 12 would be great right now.

Rule 12 in action:


Rule "talk to me in private so I can lie to you, sell you overpriced crap you don't need with buzzwords, all without without having to deal dissenting opinions that from people that have a clue":


For now we can ignore the obviously shill recommendations for your services in the following thread and focus on one piece of information everyone seems to be in on from the get-go.

2012

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141089

"I have spoken with Vixen Soul and have now contracted her and her BF to make me a website that shows my Monthly income vs expenditure."

"Have just had my brand new lotto site uploaded to my server and now in the beta testing stage www.eveforce.com i have to say im very impressed with the site and how fast Vixen and her BF can do this it took about 3 days and for a very good price."

"Just checked out the Final Design for my fianance and Order tracker. I have chosen to have it hosted By Vixen and Knave (we cant all keep calling him her bf he has a name XD ). It has taken the estimated time of a week to complete and im extremely impressed with the constant communication from Vixen and Knave."

"I'm Vixen's bf, also the designer of SoulCreative. If any persons interested in our work and has questions about my design philosophy or process or, even anything, please wing an EVEmail my way!"

2013 - This seems to be when the story changed. Naturally circumstances do change, but with so many other red flags and what you just said, this does not help you win me over in the slightest.

http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1291146
"My name is Luna. I have a small company made up of myself as developer, my brother as designer, and then a couple others who help with administrative and artistic work. We make up a small company based out of USA called SoulCreative."

"Our company is official and legal in my older brother, Michael Prey's name."

"to quote my brother, michael:"

I'm going to take one final risk in this post and point out the following. On 19.07.2013 you stated that you company was based out of the USA. Also of note is that you seem to primarily have made websites for Chinese entities, and you say you first created the Scoville Scale website for a Chinese entity.

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1291146



On one of your own websites you say, on 12.07.2013 (seven days prior to the above post), that you are currently living in China.

http://luna.soulcreative.org/topic/2013-7-12/how-can-i-sell-my-company-to-clients-internationally%3F



None of this is evidence, of course, but it's all very suspect to me.

I wan't too invest some then.

Please contact me with info about initial payment and how we will do it.

And with that you just ended the thread ....

I don't see a mention of RMT, I was thinking it was more along the lines of violating rules regarding scamming for out of game services as discussed here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=174820#post174820

Because if this is entirely legitimate, with no shill customers and so on I will donate 100b worth of PLEX to the next PLEX for Good.