Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And that is better than CAREBEAR mode for gankers we got now. Trust me gankers would be first to dock in fear.

No.

This is just weak sauce all around.

No.

Play better or go back to WoW.

No... just no.

I like the semi-permanent Suspect timer. Perhaps not 30 days, but 10 would be nice. Turn it into 30 days of criminality if you do it again while suspect. Heck, I'd even be willing to ditch CONCORD.

It's not illegal to peer through car windows. One could be admiring the interior. Its opening the car door that crosses the line or reaching in through an open window and stealing an item from the vehicle.

when the bad guy gets pinched and he rolls on your azz, the police will pick you up as an accomplice.
part of organized crime is having someone lookin out and passing on info. then its taken to a whole different level.

and the ecm jam only comes after you are scanned. once it happens, your contents are known. its over.

i understand its for profit.

lemme tell you how *I* would run it if this change went through.

*I* would undock my combat ship and watch who is getting timers and then engage em. once they scanners are off the field, then undock my goods and jet. i would run the combat ship in front of my cargo..
or, i might even bring an empty t1 bait ship beside my combat ship and just jump through empire back and forth.

how about you look up racketeering. many small violations over a 10 year period all add up to a bigger charge.
you have no reason to know whats in my cargo except to steal it in this game.

i should be able to legally defend myself.
castle law in texas has been extended to my vehicle. if i catch you breaking into my vehicle, i can shoot you. if you are all up on my vehicle, i can justify you "attempting to break in" and shoot u.
im not asking for concord to come hit u, i just wanna be able to do it.

and this is all i am asking for. something that will allow me to patrol my own.
i dont mind having 3 accounts and running all 3 to enforce my own protection. turn high sec into null.. great! i dont care.

but give me the ability to protect myself. thats all i am asking.

and ships scanners are different from cargo scanners. i dont agree with ships scanners, but i dont care about that.

Cargo Scanning...ah the thing where there is only one ship class designed to counter it...and an expensive one at that, let me introduce you to:



Now what I find curious is that these ships are balanced by "They excel at moving fast, but as a result they pay for it with poor cargo capacity" not due to their immunity to cargo scanning.

Cost: Prowler, 86mil ISK.

Now I personally think that they should extended the "immune to cargo scanning" to all T2 Transport Ships...they're supposed to be specialised and take some serious skilling up. The cost is not to be scoffed at either.

I was going to say that Cargo Scanning should be left as is for NPC's only but that doesn't make sense. You only Cargo Scan with the intent to steal. No one fits a cargo scanner just because. And it's the intent that should give the person a "Suspect" flag.

Now some will say:

• I can look in anyone's cargo container and not get a flag. Well that's correct but you didn't scan it did you?
• I can lock someone without the intent to fire. You can and you can't prove intent as sometimes we just miss click or have CTRL held down when clicking.

But to lock and Cargo Scan someone is with the intent to steal\attack for said cargo, fair and square.

+1 from me for a change to this.

There is absolutely no way you can twist using ship/cargo scanners on a ship then communicating the results to a fleet into an exploit. Ship scanners exist for exactly this kind of purpose and the inability to use the knowledge gained by use of the scanner completely negates the point of fitting it in the first place.

By this logic it would be an exploit for me to use a ship scanner on a Bhaalghorn and tell my FC when a target's cap is dry because this will cause a change in primary targets to a ship that is more vulnerable than others.

If you don't want to get ganked there are ways to do it. If you are carrying large quantities of cheap things fit for cargo space because chances are it will not be worth ganking it and even if you do get ganked, it was cheap so you just get another one. When you must transport expensive things use a tanked and/or cloaking ship or hauler which doesn't mean you won't get ganked but will substantially reduce the chance of it working. Finally use an instaundock bookmark to get off the tradehub station and cloak/warp before anyone even gets a look at you.

If you care enough you can move basically anything in basically anything if you do it intelligently, you don't need CCP to cover for being lazy and the price of laziness is the occasional ship loss. If the ship loss in unacceptable to you then don't be lazy.

hahahaha, oh yes please.

Oh you refuse to duel me Freighter? Too bad I have a scanner fitted. *starts shooting*

Customs Officers conduct those searches (not Concord) in-line with their duties and are exempt as is any Customs Officer in RL.