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100B ISK Proposal - Revolutionary Alliance management system

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Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-29 14:42:00 UTC
Hello everyone,

My name is Vixen. I'm the owner of a small web development company. I have a vision for eve online that I'd like to bring to life. I'll spare you guys the long essay, and show pictures instead.

http://i.imgur.com/mprVyuF.png

http://i.imgur.com/wUpppIO.png

http://i.imgur.com/rZKy4u7.png

http://i.imgur.com/HZKulhR.png

http://i.imgur.com/PZKNBtH.png

If any alliance CEO's are interested in this venture, you can respond here or email me at lunaprey7@gmail.com. I can also provide a portfolio of my companies past work, and demonstrate competence with the EVE api.

I may still create this if noone is interested, and sell it on monthly payments. Eve online is all about organizing people and getting things done. This system will make it so efficient, that users of this system will be at a great advantage, and CEO's will find management of their alliance much less time consuming.

Thanks,

Vixen
Johnson Sunzu
more then SERI0US BUSINESS
#2 - 2013-09-29 16:14:52 UTC
Create it first =3
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-09-29 17:19:30 UTC
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
Create it first =3


Haha, you have no idea how much I'd like to. I would be like.. the 2nd summerset of Eve Online. I would buy my entire corp titans just so the can spin them in their hangars... well I guess they couldn't do that.. perhaps in their POS areas??

Anyway, this website, if I do it, will literally be the most complex website my company has ever made. Most companies we work with just want to tell users about their company, or perhaps sell a product. That's all simple, but you have to realize what this website can do. It will literally calculate how much a user contributes to his corp/alliance. If the CEO of the alliance so chooses, he can allow users to vote on the direction the corp goes, and each user's say in the corp will be a direct reflection of their contribution rating. Do you know how revolutionary that is? People will be recognized and rewarded not for how good they are at sucking up to the CEO, but how much they contribute! That's huge!!!!

Also, this tool will look at buy order data, and if it sees that a member of the alliance has created a buy order at a HUB of the alliances, it will notify the jump freighter pilots that they need to pick this up, and put it on the market at the HUB. Think about that. No need to request anything. Just put up a buy order, and your hauler will know!

Another feature is the fitting system. I encourage you to study it closely in the picture. You will be able to let your leader know what fit you prefer. They will be able to click on you, and see not only what fits you like, but if that fit is ready, and the location. This is going to stream line logistics, and I don't mean the logistics pilots. I mean the logistics of the entire alliance. The event system will also be revolutionary. Players will be able to RSVP, and this means that commanders will know exactly who's coming, and prepare things accordingly.

Also, the system will note the rate players who sign up actually come. Commanders will know Player A has signed up, but only makes it to 55% of the events he signs up for. This will also be tied to the contribution rating of the user to encourage users to only sign up when they will make it. Also, I think it's needless to say that those who sign up for lots of events will have a higher contribution rating. :)

Anyway, this vision I'm describing isn't something I can take lightly. If it was so easy, it would exist already, would it not? This is something a VERY large alliance is going to need to purchase. They can purchase it, and rent the system out to other alliances for a monthly fee, OR they can use it to give their alliance an advantage in this game.

I don't care. Either way though, if someone ponies up the money, the game will change forever, and I will be honored to make EVE history. :)
Johnson Sunzu
more then SERI0US BUSINESS
#4 - 2013-09-29 17:31:55 UTC
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-09-29 17:45:10 UTC
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-09-29 17:55:11 UTC
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.


i would say get it made get it working let people beta/test it for a week or 2 and then sell it o to someone as tbh i cant see anyone puting up 200b up front for a web vision. now buying something that is made and ready to go is a hole nother matter
Johnson Sunzu
more then SERI0US BUSINESS
#7 - 2013-09-29 18:04:42 UTC
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.



I'm down with what Lord said.

No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P
socrates33
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-29 18:16:44 UTC
maybe yes if he use Chriba darknes or grendell 3rd party.
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-09-29 18:16:58 UTC
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.



I'm down with what Lord said.

No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P


It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio.
Wafflehead
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-29 18:41:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Wafflehead
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.



I'm down with what Lord said.

No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P


It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio.


Your website & portfolio is awful!, the idea of you & your company doing this would value it very low!

On a serious side.. You spend hours creating this 'revolutionary' alliance management system (im pretty sure theres a corp management system out there) and someone will come along and make something similar, better and cheaper/free to use.

Therefor I must say "I'm Out"
flakeys
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-09-29 19:30:08 UTC
This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-09-29 19:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Vixen Soul
Wafflehead wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)

I don't see your page working too be honest...


Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment.

I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.



I'm down with what Lord said.

No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P


It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio.


Your website & portfolio is awful!, the idea of you & your company doing this would value it very low!

On a serious side.. You spend hours creating this 'revolutionary' alliance management system (im pretty sure theres a corp management system out there) and someone will come along and make something similar, better and cheaper/free to use.

Therefor I must say "I'm Out"


I'm not sure what portfolio you're looking at since I didn't link it. I haven't been active in this game for quite awhile. Also, yes, it's true someone can emulate this system. They would have to put in about 2 months work though. It's going to be extremely complex. This isn't something some 14 year old can do.
Vistrix Starshadow
New Eden Webservices
#13 - 2013-09-29 19:46:53 UTC
Vixen Soul wrote:

I'm not sure what portfolio you're looking at since I didn't link it. I haven't been active in this game for quite awhile. Also, yes, it's true someone can emulate this system. They would have to put in about 2 months work though. It's going to be extremely complex. This isn't something some 14 year old can do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBXZWB_dNsw
Try again.
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-09-29 20:07:23 UTC
Vistrix Starshadow wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:

I'm not sure what portfolio you're looking at since I didn't link it. I haven't been active in this game for quite awhile. Also, yes, it's true someone can emulate this system. They would have to put in about 2 months work though. It's going to be extremely complex. This isn't something some 14 year old can do.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBXZWB_dNsw
Try again.


He's the exception that proves the rule. DUH~ Roll
flakeys
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-09-29 20:29:20 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
flakeys wrote:
This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?



Since you ''don't want to '' answer my question i did a search .... and stumbled on this post off yours wich indeed is the same thing a long time ago seems i even posted in it hence prob why i remembered the ''layout'' of your OP .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-09-29 20:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Vixen Soul
flakeys wrote:
flakeys wrote:
This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?



Since you ''don't want to '' answer my question i did a search .... and stumbled on this post off yours wich indeed is the same thing a long time ago seems i even posted in it hence prob why i remembered the ''layout'' of your OP .


So I've proposed this before, and it didn't catch on? That was 9 months ago. I started a company since then. I hired developers since then. I've created proposals, signed contracts. I'm 17 years old, I've grown a lot since then. I'm looking at this much more professionally.

Like I said, I wouldn't ask that an investor pay any amount up front. Instead, we can write a time line, and add objectives. When each objective is completed, I would get a payment. This would ensure the project is completed, and nobody is scammed. There isn't much risk here. Just someone willing to agree to fund it because they have faith in the idea I'm selling. Smile I encourage you to look at the idea. Read my 2nd post on this thread. I'm confident you will like my ideas. I'm not just selling a website here. I'm selling a system, and I lay out pretty specifically what features it will have.
Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
#17 - 2013-09-29 20:45:54 UTC
I agree that it would be a complex site. My company does Project Management software, and we do a lot of complex things on our web application. Send me a message if you would like a consultant with some experience implementing something that size.
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-09-29 20:47:25 UTC
Tigerras wrote:
I agree that it would be a complex site. My company does Project Management software, and we do a lot of complex things on our web application. Send me a message if you would like a consultant with some experience implementing something that size.


Thank you, Tigerras, do you perhaps use Google+? If so, my name on there is Luna Prey. I'd really love if you added me!
Johnson Sunzu
more then SERI0US BUSINESS
#19 - 2013-09-29 20:48:50 UTC
Vixen Soul wrote:
flakeys wrote:
flakeys wrote:
This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?



Since you ''don't want to '' answer my question i did a search .... and stumbled on this post off yours wich indeed is the same thing a long time ago seems i even posted in it hence prob why i remembered the ''layout'' of your OP .


So I've proposed this before, and it didn't catch on? That was 9 months ago. I started a company since then. I hired developers since then. I've created proposals, signed contracts. I'm 17 years old, I've grown a lot since then. I'm looking at this much more professionally.

Like I said, I wouldn't ask that an investor pay any amount up front. Instead, we can write a time line, and add objectives. When each objective is completed, I would get a payment. This would ensure the project is completed, and nobody is scammed. There isn't much risk here. Just someone willing to agree to fund it because they have faith in the idea I'm selling. Smile I encourage you to look at the idea. Read my 2nd post on this thread. I'm confident you will like my ideas. I'm not just selling a website here. I'm selling a system, and I lay out pretty specifically what features it will have.



So.

I just read the Thread about your previous attempt at this and i must say... You didn't learn anything did you?

Make the site and sell it or give up your little scam.

And before you say you aren't scamming, Can you prove yourself otherwise?

What you have done the last 9 months that makes you think that this will work now i don't know...
But i know it won't work now =)

Save yourself the time ^__^
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-09-29 20:52:29 UTC
Johnson Sunzu wrote:
Vixen Soul wrote:
flakeys wrote:
flakeys wrote:
This all seem VERRY formiliar .. you tried doing this scam uhm scheme before on this forum ?



Since you ''don't want to '' answer my question i did a search .... and stumbled on this post off yours wich indeed is the same thing a long time ago seems i even posted in it hence prob why i remembered the ''layout'' of your OP .


So I've proposed this before, and it didn't catch on? That was 9 months ago. I started a company since then. I hired developers since then. I've created proposals, signed contracts. I'm 17 years old, I've grown a lot since then. I'm looking at this much more professionally.

Like I said, I wouldn't ask that an investor pay any amount up front. Instead, we can write a time line, and add objectives. When each objective is completed, I would get a payment. This would ensure the project is completed, and nobody is scammed. There isn't much risk here. Just someone willing to agree to fund it because they have faith in the idea I'm selling. Smile I encourage you to look at the idea. Read my 2nd post on this thread. I'm confident you will like my ideas. I'm not just selling a website here. I'm selling a system, and I lay out pretty specifically what features it will have.



So.

I just read the Thread about your previous attempt at this and i must say... You didn't learn anything did you?

Make the site and sell it or give up your little scam.

And before you say you aren't scamming, Can you prove yourself otherwise?

What you have done the last 9 months that makes you think that this will work now i don't know...
But i know it won't work now =)

Save yourself the time ^__^


Well, there are a lot like you. Can't win em' all. I've laid out pretty fair terms. I'm sure those who are business minded enough will see I'm making a decent offer. If not... well, like I said, I just might develop the system anyway. I just set up the website http://moon-ninja.com. This is where it will be parked.
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