EVE New Citizens Q&A

i am lacking motavation.

My dilema, i moved home and in that move i left wow after 5 years of grinding my way to boredom. i found EVE and was initially stimulated by the challenge that lay ahead, the game posed numerous roads all of which require a vast array of knowledge and know how. i joined a corp who's members are primarily usa and alaska based, myself am in the uk so if i play during the day i am mainly on my own.
in real life i work shift's 4 x 12 hour days then 4 days off then 4 x 12 hour nights and so on, i do not play on work days or nights, i feel at this stage that i have not progressed at all i log in daily to fill the training queue, when i play i am busy doing lvl 1 missions available from the agents, i find these ok but they are not gripping or filling me with a sense of satisfaction. i was aiming to be an industrlalist ie making stuff and selling it on the market, i have a mining ship ( just a cheap fitted orca ) however even this is quite boring in the early stages, skill training is too long in my opinion, by the time i have trained something am bored to death and no longer want to make that item. maybe am just going through a mid life bored stage ( am 51 in real life ) i feel the game is grossly over priced for a monthly subscription £14.95 i think £9.99 is more of a realistic price to pay.
Will i caryy on playing Eve....i don't really know yet.

I agree. I had some issues with being bored by the game and actually unsubscribed for a couple of months time. Now that I do something that I truly enjoy, I'm happy to pay those 15$ and I'm having a great time.

Basically, ask yourself what you really want to do (eg. killing other people, exploring, mining (*shrug*), ...) and find some people to do that with.

If you choose the PvP side, drop me a message in game and I can point you to some information on how to get started. If you choose some other path, I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to help you get started.

o/ C.P.

Let me start by pointing out you made 1 big mistake, Don't use an Orca to mine.
The orca is ment to be a boosting platform for mining ships in your fleet.
Any racial cruiser can outmine an orca as the only mining capability that the orca has are the mining drones it can launch.

If you want to become a miner I would suggest training for the following ships, Retriever, Covetor and last one the mighty Hulk.
If you want to mine in the meanwhile stick with the racial ships (frigates and cruisers) that have a ship related boost to mining lasers.

On training times I disagree with you about them being to long. Very short skilltime and EVE will end up like a WoW clone, all "level xx" characters bored and also the whole idea of veterans vs noobs will be lost.
I like the way CCP has implanted character progression, I think it's more fair then any hack/slash=grind XP MMO where people who play 24/7 advance way quicker then any general player.
Also as being fairly new, cherish those what you call long skill times, sooner or later you will find the 14x multiplier skills which will take over a month easily to train.

Best to keep boredom away is to remind, EVE is a sandbox. You can do anything you want, anytime you want, at any skill-level.
True, higher skills make some stuff much easier.
But best to not look at your character screen and skill queue 23/7.
Just go out and do stuff you like while you train skills and if you get bored, it might be time to broaden your view on EVE and try out different things.
EVE online is much more then just mining, missioning and pvp. You can try exploration (look for signatures in system, probe sites) or if you can fund it try some small bit of trading.

On your issue with the corp. My advice, search for a new one.
There isn't a rule against switching corps, though don't switch too much or you might find it difficult to get into a corp due to nature of some EVE players (Spies, Corp/Alliance thiefs, gankers etc).

If you are looking for a corp my suggestion is:

1.) Always talk to a recruiter/director/CEO, never join just cause you found their corp advert.
2.) Ask how many members they have, and how many are active atm (corp chat count). This can give you an idea on how active the corp is during your timezones.
3.) Ask when their prime time is (so in which timezone they mainly operate) and what they as a corp like to do (not much use as a indy toon to join a hardcore FW / PvP corp).

Kind regards,

J'poll

We can help you. First, tell us what you want to do.

First of all looks like you have mining skills trained and is aiming for industrial play.

The issue with that is you really need a highly active Mining/Industrial corp to suit your gameplay. Afterall solo mining is boring as hell and its only a passive source of income when you run Eve in the background.

From what you have said, you can fly a ORCA, I am not sure if you do intend on mining yourself, since training up mining skills and into HULK can be quite skill intensive and requirs more of

*stare at the Skill Que waiting for the next skill que slot to open *

which is the exact opposite of what you want EVE to be.


Someone once told me, if you want to survive in EVE you have to set goals.

Set small goals that are realistic and build towards bigger goals.

Becoming an industrlalist takes time and planning, and cooperation with other plays, and doenst happen overnight, so the frustration is undertandable.


What you can do though is look at your current skills, and the ships you can currently fly and make the most of it.

There are plenty of active industrial corps which need ORCA pilots, so instead of trying to train up mining skills, you can train yourself to be a dedicated ORCA pilot, while your other skills are in the que.

Mining is always boring solo, but if you get into a full mining fleet and large scale operation, it can be quite thrilling.
What i honestly suggest is find a mining corp that plays in your time zone and runs regular mining CORPs.

One of the Corps my alt is in right now, runs Wormhole mining OPS with full Navy Support.
In those mining operations, each player has specific roles, which makes the entire operation fun and profitable for all players. I am sure ORCA pilots are most welcome on those large scale operations.

Like most MMO's fun comes not so much in the game itself, its how you play the game and who you play with

I'm uk and play in the day a lot, add me and come do something different when mining gets too slow.

fly safe

EDIT: advice not good enough to need posting twice

lots of sound advice, many thanks.......in my noobness post i made a mistake of typing orca when in fact i should of put osprey.
will bear with it and see how i go i think i am going through some real life bored to death syndrome lol.

i think the most off putting thing about this game is its actual vastness and depth, there is so much information that needs to be absorbed, and that is i think my main frustration, the not knowing, the feeling of waking up from a coma in a strange new world totally clueless.

what system is good.......
what does this item do......
can i use this item........

and so on.

so in my frustration yesterday i actually cancelled this account, so on 27th nov i guess i can just reactivate it and carry on?

once again thanks for the help

once again thanks.

Now to find a corp which is probably going to be a lot harder than it sounds.

Finding a corp can be hard yes,especially when your new and dont really know what to look for. A while back i wrote a small guide on how to find a corp,and several others have added in other comments and advice. I will link it here and i hope it can help you out. Good luck in the search :)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943