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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2013-09-28 03:45:17 UTC
Cassius Invictus wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
By extrapolating we can get a very basic idea about what kind of stats these ships will get.
We know that pirate ships get 15 slots, and drone ships always get -1.
We also know that pirate ships get about 150% the raw HP as there T1 counterpart.
As a armor based drone ship it would be best to assume the arbitrator as the T1 counterpart.
We know the bonuses are 4% to armor resistances per level of Amarr Cruiser and 10% drone damage and HP from Gallente Cruiser.
So other than power Grid and CPU we can get a basic idea.


SOE Cruiser

• Role Bonus: 37.5% to scan probe strength 100% reduction of the CPU needs of Covert Ops Cloaking Device(total crap shoot on these)

• Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus:
+4% Armor Resistances per Level

• Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus:
+10% Drone Damage and HP per Level

• Slot layout: High 4, Med 4, Low 6 (or) High 4, Med 5, Low 5 / 2 turret and 2 launcher hardpoints
• Fittings: 600MW, 350CPU
• Defense (shields / armor / hull) :1650/2250/2400
• Shield resists: 0EM/50EX/40KIN/20THE
• Armor resists: 50EM/20EX/25KIN/35THE
• Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : (Never been good at this one)
• Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time):(or this one)
• Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125Mbps/400
• Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km/260mm/7
• Sensor strength: 17(?)
• Signature radius: 125m(?)


Sounds right but on a concept art (which may not be accurate) there are clearly 6 turret slots.


Concept art is not usually accurate in terms of such specifics.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2013-09-28 09:24:07 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
I love how they look like Aclubierre Drive concept ships

This... F*cking beautiful. They emit a sense of power and confidence, along with efficiency and sleekness.


Thats not an aclubierre drive concept ship, they don't have the slightest idea of how such a ship would look, and its all hype.

What was linked (and what someone else here also linked with the correct description), was a Vulcan ship from star trek (pre-federation era).
You seem to have gotten confused by some hype news story, that reported on the mental masturbation of an aclubierre drive, and slapped on a picture from star trek because warp drive = star trek.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2013-09-28 13:20:07 UTC
Verity Sovereign wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
I love how they look like Aclubierre Drive concept ships

This... F*cking beautiful. They emit a sense of power and confidence, along with efficiency and sleekness.


Thats not an aclubierre drive concept ship, they don't have the slightest idea of how such a ship would look, and its all hype.

What was linked (and what someone else here also linked with the correct description), was a Vulcan ship from star trek (pre-federation era).
You seem to have gotten confused by some hype news story, that reported on the mental ************ of an aclubierre drive, and slapped on a picture from star trek because warp drive = star trek.

This makes more sense. I never even knew they got the Alcubierre drive past the concept stage, let alone a design around it... It's still awesome though!
Innately Awesome
Princess Luna Personal Battalion
#84 - 2013-09-28 13:25:33 UTC
So instead of nerfing AFK cloaking CCP now adds two more ships capable of ruining people's life in 0.0 with 0 risk while stealing their sites at the same time. ****.
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#85 - 2013-09-28 13:35:45 UTC
I see some statistics being posted earlier on the thread, were those official? I must have missed their release. I am curious why CCP didnt release the BS with the frigate and cruiser, its in the data, model and all SOE battleship.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2013-09-28 15:12:37 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
I see some statistics being posted earlier on the thread, were those official? I must have missed their release. I am curious why CCP didnt release the BS with the frigate and cruiser, its in the data, model and all SOE battleship.

They are not official, they are theory crafted stats.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2013-09-28 16:55:39 UTC
Innately Awesome wrote:
So instead of nerfing AFK cloaking CCP now adds two more ships capable of ruining people's life in 0.0 with 0 risk while stealing their sites at the same time. ****.

You know, bubbles with cans could easily be the end for these ships. Also, I don't think people would want to go AFK with ships that would be as expensive as these.

Anyways, I don't want this to turn into an AFK cloaky whine thread. We were doing fine so far. If you're concerned about AFK cloaking, please go to that thread in F&I instead of posting here.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2013-09-28 17:31:18 UTC
Oh look, AFK cloak whiners...

But yes, some people would go AFK in these ships, because going AFK cloaking (away from any object where you might get decloaked) is as safe as logging off.
Warp around to set up a safe, get to your safe, start travelling away from it (no speed penalty while cloaked with a covops), and go afk

An AFK cloaker who comes back from being AFK is just like someone who logged off in space, and comes logs back in - except for the free, perfect intel provided by local.

I'm hoping the SOE frig is like the "stealth fighter" I've been wanting.

I suspect the SOE frig will be better able to figt frigs than either the covops scan frigs, or the stealth bombers (which have a very narrow range of targets)

Of course, the covops recons can also do a fair amount of damage - as can any of the nromal ships mounting a standard cloak - although in that case they can see you coming on D scan.

But I suspect unlike stealth bombers, these SOE ships will have the targeting delay - so an aware target should be able to escape anyway.
How many seconds warning would you get wit D scan before it lands on grid (and since it wasn't cloaked, it can start locking right away).

I'm not worried, and they may encourage people to go out and PvE in low and Null (I'm already considering taking the SOE frigate to do the guristas epic arc, pending a look at its stats)
Ciaphas Cyne
Moira.
#89 - 2013-09-28 23:04:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciaphas Cyne
so my myrmi has 6 turrets but the fitting screen sure doesnt think so...


anyway, love the new ships, love any excuse to use that cov-ops cloak. just one concern: the look. or rather how they look compared to other ships.

the ships look great, no denying. they just dont look like eve ships at all. could i be so bold as to suggest they are aware of the design themes in StarCitizen?

anyway the cruiser seems built off the stabber model, not sure about the frig, but both look more Caldari-ish than any Caldari ship currently in the game. Makes the other "clean block" ships in eve look almost childish in comparison. how for example, can you fly that SOE cruiser next to a moa or falcon or caracal and not think that your graphics card is malfunctioning? it would be like inserting a model from FarCry into minecraft or something...its just gonna look out of place. amarr ships currently suffer a little from being "too pretty" and as a result look like they belong in a different game. These SOE ships look so sleek and detailed... they just arent....EVE.

maybe once we get a graphics overhaul done to caldari ships they wont look like floating crayon drawings, and wont make other ships, like the SOE ones, seem so out of place.

not really complaining, as I love the look, i just hope that one day all eve ships can get that level of love and detail. ive said it before but most the ships in the game look half-assed and rushed. Lots poorly thought out designs that make no physical sense, textures that blur what little detail was in the original model... its strange when you see these in comparison.

no offense to the people that worked very hard on all EvEs ships...actually if you designed a cruiser, offense intended, i cant find one in the game that doesnt look like total crap...minus the stabber of course haha

"buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"

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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#90 - 2013-09-28 23:23:08 UTC
Innately Awesome wrote:
So instead of nerfing AFK cloaking CCP now adds two more ships capable of ruining people's life in 0.0 with 0 risk while stealing their sites at the same time. ****.


Combat escort?
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-09-29 01:18:13 UTC
Ciaphas Cyne wrote:
so my myrmi has 6 turrets but the fitting screen sure doesnt think so...


anyway, love the new ships, love any excuse to use that cov-ops cloak. just one concern: the look. or rather how they look compared to other ships.

the ships look great, no denying. they just dont look like eve ships at all. could i be so bold as to suggest they are aware of the design themes in StarCitizen?

anyway the cruiser seems built off the stabber model, not sure about the frig, but both look more Caldari-ish than any Caldari ship currently in the game. Makes the other "clean block" ships in eve look almost childish in comparison. how for example, can you fly that SOE cruiser next to a moa or falcon or caracal and not think that your graphics card is malfunctioning? it would be like inserting a model from FarCry into minecraft or something...its just gonna look out of place. amarr ships currently suffer a little from being "too pretty" and as a result look like they belong in a different game. These SOE ships look so sleek and detailed... they just arent....EVE.

maybe once we get a graphics overhaul done to caldari ships they wont look like floating crayon drawings, and wont make other ships, like the SOE ones, seem so out of place.

not really complaining, as I love the look, i just hope that one day all eve ships can get that level of love and detail. ive said it before but most the ships in the game look half-assed and rushed. Lots poorly thought out designs that make no physical sense, textures that blur what little detail was in the original model... its strange when you see these in comparison.

no offense to the people that worked very hard on all EvEs ships...actually if you designed a cruiser, offense intended, i cant find one in the game that doesnt look like total crap...minus the stabber of course haha


I think that this is not really a combining of racial traits as you would find in traditional ships. The SoE philosophy is radically different from that of other races - a different look should be expected! And it does look unique and phenomenal.
Ciaphas Cyne
Moira.
#92 - 2013-09-29 01:29:08 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:


I think that this is not really a combining of racial traits as you would find in traditional ships. The SoE philosophy is radically different from that of other races - a different look should be expected! And it does look unique and phenomenal.


agreed! they just also happen to make all the other ships in EVE look like a kids afternoon on minecraft

"buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"

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