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Move Osmon to reinforced node until Rubicon

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Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-09-28 09:05:45 UTC
Harry Kawkenbawls wrote:
I'm going to go on the assumption that you are not as dumb as you're acting and you're simply after an argument. You just pointed out the flaw in your own statement. Players won't be forced to run the missions for the low sec agents.


So, basically what you are saying is that, instead of trying a in-game solution (move to less crowded system) first, you rather cry to CCP to have the game changed? HTFU!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-09-28 09:11:05 UTC
Kill them all.

Problem solved.

Sissies.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#43 - 2013-09-28 09:39:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Great. That's where I keep a JC when I first got enough SoE faction to have one.


I hear that incursion LP can translate to Sisters LP anyway and the ISK payout is higher. Give it a couple of weeks for people to figure that one out, another week of "I has Drake" in the incursion channels ( Lol You KNOW it's going to happen) and then the incursion runners will be like "WTF my incursion?"


Years of running SoE missions so not so bork my standings with any one faction gives me all the LP I need, but yeah, it would be a good idea to have more than 1 SoE level 4 security agent for a host of reasons


My my. Look at the kill everything that moves crowd wanting more targets just by asking for it. Behold the folly of activism and resistance. Clamoring for something gets you nothing (unless it's something planned for you to regret getting later on, like a tax). Resistance is just doing it permission be damned. All these spiders demanding of the wind to blow the flies into their webs. It's not impressive.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#44 - 2013-09-28 09:45:23 UTC
Concord LP (incursions) can be converted into Sisters' LP.
Julius Priscus
#45 - 2013-09-28 10:36:55 UTC
too all you high sec hugging pussies in osmon earning 6k lp per mission lol..

GOTO ROIR-Y and get 16k lp per mission :P

or just do incursions in safety if you can get to one in time :P
Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#46 - 2013-09-28 10:50:53 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Harry Kawkenbawls wrote:
I'm going to go on the assumption that you are not as dumb as you're acting and you're simply after an argument. You just pointed out the flaw in your own statement. Players won't be forced to run the missions for the low sec agents.

So, basically what you are saying is that, instead of trying a in-game solution (move to less crowded system) first, you rather cry to CCP to have the game changed? HTFU!

CCP caused this problem when on May 19th 2011 they limited mission agents to missions of one type, and nerfed Gicodel (the system with the only other HS L4 SoE agent) into the ground by making that agent a distribution one.

Until all are free...
Sturmwolke
#47 - 2013-09-28 11:06:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

I hear that incursion LP can translate to Sisters LP ...

The exchange rate is 0.4 Concord LP to 1 SoE LP .... i.e for every 1000 SoE LP, you need to burn 2500 Concord LP.
Not worth it, imo. It's not the normal 0.8 you get for the standard empire faction.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-09-28 11:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Harry Kawkenbawls wrote:
I'm going to go on the assumption that you are not as dumb as you're acting and you're simply after an argument. You just pointed out the flaw in your own statement. Players won't be forced to run the missions for the low sec agents.


So, basically what you are saying is that, instead of trying a in-game solution (move to less crowded system) first, you rather cry to CCP to have the game changed? HTFU!

server limitations aren't a part of game design.

if this was people asking CCP to spawn them more asteroid belts because the existing ones deplete too fast then I would agree completely with you - but having tidi in mission hubs and their surrounding systems is not a balancing feature intended by CCP.

Your post is the equivalent of "HTFU! why don't you just do small gang pvp instead of bringing 1000 vs 1000 and then complaining about tidi". But EVE is designed to encourage 1000 vs 1000 battles just as it is designed to accommodate 300 players in one mission hub: agents are designed to hand out an unlimited number of missions simultaneously, mission running is designed not to be a competition about limited resources (the way ratting and mining are), ...
The Jita population cap exists to prevent an even worse playing experience, not because CCP's game designers decided that they want to discourage high population systems.

If CCP wanted to reduce the size of mission hubs and encourage people to spread out they could do so easily by means of game design. Relying on hardware limitations to do this job would be the crudest and most convoluted "fix" possible. Claiming that hardware limitations show CCP's intent when actual game design suggests the exact opposite is disingenuous.

(Just remapping the surrounding systems to different nodes would probably help a lot - Korsiki being on the same node as Osmon is a big part of the problem)

.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-09-28 11:19:38 UTC
Due to the insane amounts of SoE Loyalty Points I have accumulated due to silly RP reasons (along with a flawless 10/10 in faction/corporation standing), I of course support any petty attempt at trying to prevent others from gathering SoE Loyalty Points. Nobody should bug in on the insane profits I am about to make here, obviously. Crap server performance due to another CCP oversight, is just the thing.

Thank you, Obama.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-09-28 11:41:31 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:

if this was people asking CCP to spawn them more asteroid belts because the existing ones deplete too fast then I would agree completely with you - but having tidi in mission hubs and their surrounding systems is not a balancing feature intended by CCP.


Of course not. Osmon moving to it's own node - fine. Spawning more level4 agents when the available ones aren't even used to the fullest extend - Not fine.
vextorious
30plus LLC
Brave Collective
#51 - 2013-09-28 11:48:22 UTC
Harry Kawkenbawls wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
uuuuuh...because whilst the agents and players can take it, the servers cannot?


Judging from the NPC kills around Aeschee (2 Lvl4 SoE agents), there is still plenty of room for players to do missions.


I'm going to go on the assumption that you are not as dumb as you're acting and you're simply after an argument. You just pointed out the flaw in your own statement. Players won't be forced to run the missions for the low sec agents. Fact - nothing you can do to change that. They will run the high sec Osmon one. Fact - again, nothing you can do about it. CCP WILL have to do something about it. Either add another level 4 security agent in high sec or reinforce the node. Did I make the only possible scenario simple enough for you?



Or maybe limit the number of missions per hour a given agent can offer? Oh simple one, you must open your mind to gain wisdom. LMAO.

Their are many ways to deal with this outside of your narrow point of view.
Scrutt5
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-09-28 11:54:38 UTC
Tikitina wrote:
Time to add some more L4 Sisters Agents.



There's loads available, get to low sec.
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2013-09-28 11:58:35 UTC
Or there is another solution - remove SoE Agents from high sec.

CCP called those ships "pirate faction" ships. And up to now no pirate faction had agents in high sec.
Afaik there are no Angel/Guristas/Serpentis/etc agents in high sec where you can get their faction ships.

But i wouldn't be surprised if this is taken into account, and some sub division of SoE faction will be open, and they will have their own pirate npc space with own LP stores.

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For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#54 - 2013-09-28 14:26:34 UTC
It seems many SoE systems are in TiDi - Airaken is in 49% TiDi right now - only 64 in local.

This is not good.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#55 - 2013-09-28 14:57:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Just got punted - Node being re-mapped.

Edit:
Yay! No TiDi!
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-09-28 15:20:44 UTC
The Spod wrote:
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
uuuuuh...because whilst the agents and players can take it, the servers cannot?


Just put it on jita node.



Permanently right? Because screw sov eh?

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Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#57 - 2013-09-28 15:33:00 UTC
Scrutt5 wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
Time to add some more L4 Sisters Agents.



There's loads available, get to low sec.




Because its really worth going to low sec for some mission that pays a couple of mil isk.
Julius Priscus
#58 - 2013-09-28 23:35:29 UTC
Daisai wrote:
Scrutt5 wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
Time to add some more L4 Sisters Agents.



There's loads available, get to low sec.




Because its really worth going to low sec for some mission that pays a couple of mil isk.



clearly you are a great thinker.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#59 - 2013-09-29 00:15:31 UTC
Julius Priscus wrote:
Daisai wrote:
Scrutt5 wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
Time to add some more L4 Sisters Agents.



There's loads available, get to low sec.




Because its really worth going to low sec for some mission that pays a couple of mil isk.



clearly you are a great thinker.


lol

But on the upside,it's thinking like that that allows peopel who actually know what's up make fortunes in low sec doing sisters missions, faction warfare pve and Lv5s that "aren't worth it" lol.

Btw, those low sec systems with sisters security agents are seeing a lot more population too lol, so not everyone is that dumb.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#60 - 2013-09-29 00:21:20 UTC
Red Templar wrote:
Or there is another solution - remove SoE Agents from high sec.

CCP called those ships "pirate faction" ships. And up to now no pirate faction had agents in high sec.
Afaik there are no Angel/Guristas/Serpentis/etc agents in high sec where you can get their faction ships.

But i wouldn't be surprised if this is taken into account, and some sub division of SoE faction will be open, and they will have their own pirate npc space with own LP stores.


+1

These ships are gonna be dirt cheap, look at all the people stacking LP in osmon.

CCP needs to make more than just sisters ships if they are gonna make them available through empire pve. Like EOM.....