EVE General Discussion

I am envisioning a possible misuse of the Personal Depot Stations.
ASSUMPTIONS: These will be collidable objects; These will be able to decloak a ship within 2 km.

I can see alliances or blobs deploying a whole slew of these at Stargate entrances. When a player warps in, due to the volume of these depots, they are immediately decloaked at the gate. This is the same principle as cargo containers, but I'm sure they would be quite a bit larger. They are also 'stuck' and can't align to warp because of the sheer volume in space (similar to a miner getting stuck on asteroids). This would essentially allow blobs to take out ships without the need for bubbles at all, and even safeguard certain key systems. It could also allow general griefing in high traffic systems like Jita.

When implementing these objects, can we disallow anchoring within a certain distance from Stargates and other deployable objects?

^^^^ This if someone starts doing it just report them holy butt tarts, I feel smart around some of you forum whiners.I can barely turn a pc on right and I know more about the rules of exploits in this game. I'm still learning eve too!!!

So the deployment restriction still seems like a sound precaution.

Then the speculation as to how many objects it would take to effectively 'mine' a Stargate in this manner is still up in the air since we don't know how big they will be. Since theoretically you can have hundreds of ships and wrecks without any kind of lag, I doubt the lag issue will occur until a ridiculously large number have been deployed.

It also depends entirely on how big these things are. If they are expected to be deployable by a battleship, then I highly doubt they will be able to easily cover a gate area any better than a can or corpses.

Still say that corpses are probably the best idea. Most people will still be scratching their heads trying to figure out how they got decloaked by the time they're dead. I admit it, I outright don't have corpses on my travel overview either.

I find this extremely amusing. Thank you.

No sense panicking

covops cloaked- set OV to all, sort distance and wiggle out.

Got uncloaked?- go make a sammich and wake up back home refreshed, with a sammich.

I'm less concerned about the uncloaking thing than I am about the possibility of getting 'stuck' on a bunch of collidable objects at the gate and not being able to warp out or even maneuver back to the gates. This in combination with their ability to decloak would pose an extremely hazardous and annoying combination. Since these deployable objects would most likely be able to be placed and forgotten (ex: an offline player would be able to assist in mining a Stargate by placing and logging out), then it makes for a very easy way to blockade a particular system with a bunch of annoying and dangerous collidable objects. I'm not saying it is an exploit, I'm trying to highlight this issue to CCP before it goes live.

Either way, the assumption is that they are collidable and thus subject to bumping. The POCO really isn't the same thing as they really don't disrupt the flow of traffic from system to system and you can only place one on grid.

Imagine this: A group of people place a large number of these deployable and collidable objects at each gate in Jita. Jita, being able to support much more in terms of server load, can handle the stress of these objects being in space. They are positioned in such a way that only cruisers can get through them, but many large ships are already bumping off eachother and essentially stuck. The only option to remove them is to attack them, flagging the attackers and even then CCP has indicated they will have a sort of Reinforced Mode anyway. A group of gankers have effectively blocked off large trade in Jita and anyone who tries to remove such devices is flagged and therefore ganked.

Remember that this issue is HYPOTHETICAL based on the above mentioned assumptions since these devices are still in development. The point of the post is to flag this as a possible issue to be reviewed before going live.

Actually I don't think they could call it an exploit. You as a pilot can only drop 1. There is nothing wrong with dropping 1 item anywhere in space afaik.

Only multiple things.