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If Somer Blink pledged some 'blinkgate' profits towards future plex-for-good...
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Cristl
#1 - 2013-09-27 14:28:41 UTC
...would that calm things down?

Often a company will provide goods for an auction, with the proceeds going to charity. I wonder if Somer Blink pledged to use some of their extra income from the unique ships to prepare a plex for good fund, we'd feel a bit less pissed off?

It could make good publicity in the future too ("internet nerds in charity drive" news articles for example). Better than the current publicity anyway What?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-27 14:30:18 UTC
CCP hasn't done PLEX For Good since 2011.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#3 - 2013-09-27 14:33:14 UTC
Cristl wrote:
...would that calm things down?

Often a company will provide goods for an auction, with the proceeds going to charity. I wonder if Somer Blink pledged to use some of their extra income from the unique ships to prepare a plex for good fund, we'd feel a bit less pissed off?

It could make good publicity in the future too ("internet nerds in charity drive" news articles for example). Better than the current publicity anyway What?
No, because selling something as a result of it results in more PR for them.

The only way to rectify this is to retract all favoritism towards them, and never mention them in any official channel ever again.

A good deal of damage has already been done. :-/

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Tinman Spectacular
The Long Range Foundation
#4 - 2013-09-27 14:36:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinman Spectacular
No...

Why does Somer deserve the prestige of precious in-game resources. Somer gets exclusives, it drives up their customer base. Larger customer base increases long-term ISK gain as even more people become addicted to to their lottery. Doesn't matter if it's a Golden Banana or a 6-pack of Quafe, it's favoring an in-game corporation plain and simple.

Why not give my corporation a golden POS that prevents war-decs, since we're such a friendly new player corp driving up the subs? Remember how well that went down?

How about a golden hulk for Goons to auction off for Plex in the SA forums, it'll be un-targetable.

A Golden SBU to TEST that can be used to claim non-sov NPC space, auctioned off in Reddit.

I can go on...
Cristl
#5 - 2013-09-27 16:01:43 UTC
Tinman Spectacular wrote:
No...

Why does Somer deserve the prestige of precious in-game resources...


Please don't derail the argument. This isn't a discussion about whether CCP made a good call or if Somer deserved these gifts (obviously massive no's on both counts).

Given that a large event in Vegas has already been planned and booked, we're in damage limitation mode here.

I'm suggesting that Somer should voluntarily set aside some of the profits for this venture for a future plex-for-good initiative.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#6 - 2013-09-27 16:07:05 UTC
Xaen wrote:
Cristl wrote:
...would that calm things down?

Often a company will provide goods for an auction, with the proceeds going to charity. I wonder if Somer Blink pledged to use some of their extra income from the unique ships to prepare a plex for good fund, we'd feel a bit less pissed off?

It could make good publicity in the future too ("internet nerds in charity drive" news articles for example). Better than the current publicity anyway What?
No, because selling something as a result of it results in more PR for them.

The only way to rectify this is to retract all favoritism towards them, and never mention them in any official channel ever again.

A good deal of damage has already been done. :-/

Considering that CCP started featuring important player run organizations prominently in Dev blogs some time ago, and has mention many worth while entities specifically to bring them to the attention of the player base, I doubt that is going to happen.

Lets not take this to the point where we cut off our nose to spite our face.

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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-27 22:20:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Cristl wrote:
Tinman Spectacular wrote:
No...

Why does Somer deserve the prestige of precious in-game resources...


Please don't derail the argument. This isn't a discussion about whether CCP made a good call or if Somer deserved these gifts (obviously massive no's on both counts).

Given that a large event in Vegas has already been planned and booked, we're in damage limitation mode here.

I'm suggesting that Somer should voluntarily set aside some of the profits for this venture for a future plex-for-good initiative.



If flipping your middle finger to your entire non somer playerbase and hoping it all blows over is the plan, well I guess the next round of layoffs are on the way.

I value my time and financial contribution to eve through plex purchases. I take great offense to someone being given many times more than what my cash bought free because a biased dev thought its all good.

And we will make it very clear to the playerbase as to why they buying plex to trade for in game isk is a scam seeing as how Somer is being given billions or even trillions for free.

Remind me of why I should ever in my life buy another plex for cash when behind the scenes close pals are getting what I pay for, free?
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#8 - 2013-09-27 22:24:02 UTC
Cristl wrote:
Tinman Spectacular wrote:
No...

Why does Somer deserve the prestige of precious in-game resources...


Please don't derail the argument. This isn't a discussion about whether CCP made a good call or if Somer deserved these gifts (obviously massive no's on both counts).

Given that a large event in Vegas has already been planned and booked, we're in damage limitation mode here.

I'm suggesting that Somer should voluntarily set aside some of the profits for this venture for a future plex-for-good initiative.

Your suggestion is to give Somer even more PR and traffic than they've already profited from this? Are you a somer alt by any chance?
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-09-27 23:39:36 UTC
I really don't see what the big deal is now. Or even before. Two more Gold ships/G-Vexors won't make that big of a difference. As I've already learned, most of these do not remain with their original owners anyway.


Somer already said they'll be giving all profits from the stuff they get from CCP to put towards the PvP tournament and prizes at EvE Vegas.

It's going directly back to the players.




Just too many people butt-hurt that they haven't done anything close to the effort Somer.Blink put in. And now Somer is just getting officially recognized. Hardly a problem.
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#10 - 2013-09-27 23:43:38 UTC
Goons own Blink TIN FOILS HAT FOR EVERYONE HURHUR!!! I have many other theories as well who runs CCP, Its the United States Government. Iceland is an Island owned by the Military for testing and CCP funds them with the plexe sells.One day we will have space ships all thanks to CCP funds!!!!

Blue
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2013-09-27 23:46:06 UTC
Cristl wrote:
...would that calm things down?



LOL! Of course not. CCP could give every single player a free ship and there would still be threadnoughts of tears spilling all over the forum.

Look at the year end ship giveaways over the last decade for perfect examples.

Mr Epeen Cool
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-09-28 01:11:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Its pretty funny how the powerless peons recognize they have no recourse so pretend to be fine with things as are. You don't look cool. You look like morons. Because this won't be a one off incident. And even if it were its completely unethical.

If this becomes a once a month thing exclusively for large groups that neither of you pissants are apart of will you be okay with it?

Goons could easily have gifts showered upon them if they threatened to mass unsub and tear EVES reputation down online through sheer inundation of negative criticism. Would you be okay with having to fight that conglomerate with trillions in free stuff being awarded to them?

Of course you wouldn't.

But you are idiotic enough to condone the actions that will lead to that.

And CCP is foolish enough to walk in to this next trap.

Im talking to those specifically who aren't just alt noise makers of Somer and crew.

O and look forward to competition for Somer when it becomes painfully obvious CCP condones RMT if it promotes plex sales. There are many very creative people who could have plex sales piping while offering a casino game with far less than a 20% house cut. Try 1% and tears of the competition.

What's CCP gonna do about it? State only Somer has the right to run gambling? I'm sure that'll be attempted and watch the population reject it.
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-09-28 02:08:27 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Your suggestion is to give Somer even more PR and traffic than they've already profited from this? Are you a somer alt by any chance?

Seems likely. I don't know for sure, but if somer wanted to send out a shill casting about for damage control tactics, what the OP suggests is exactly what they would do. Astroturfing also comes to mind. It's trying a bit too hard to appear reasoned and serious. If not alt/shill then definitely fanboi.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#14 - 2013-09-28 03:30:50 UTC
This is the first time i heard about CCP giveing a alliance, or whatever trillions of isk. but then again, i dont come around to often on the fourms. some of you should vent while doing something else, rather then acting like noobs on the fourms.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-09-28 04:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Swidgen wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Your suggestion is to give Somer even more PR and traffic than they've already profited from this? Are you a somer alt by any chance?

Seems likely. I don't know for sure, but if somer wanted to send out a shill casting about for damage control tactics, what the OP suggests is exactly what they would do. Astroturfing also comes to mind. It's trying a bit too hard to appear reasoned and serious. If not alt/shill then definitely fanboi.


Astroturfing
the act of creating a small organization and making it appear to represent something popular for the purpose of promoting a particular entity, cause, etc. (a play on grassroots in the sense of a popular movement originating among the common people, ultimately from AstroTurf, a brand of artificial grass)

The practice of astroturfing a widely used form of propaganda, as evidenced by the media coverage it receives.

"Astroturfing" is the act of trying to boost one's image online with fake comments, paid-for reviews, made-up claims and testimonials.

a form of propaganda whose techniques usually consist of a few people attempting to give the impression that mass numbers of enthusiasts advocate some specific cause. This is often done by conjuring up a phony organization(s) that never existed.

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Cristl
#16 - 2013-12-08 17:49:49 UTC
Apologies in advance for a little 'self-necro' What?

I just read that Somer Blink donated 4000 PLEX towards the charity drive. That's a decent thing to do, so I'd like to acknowledge the gesture here. That is a significant figure. BRAVO

Also, I was busy when I originally posted this thread, and perhaps didn't spend enough time to fully respond to my critics; on review I feel obliged to call out "Alt two" and "Swidgen" for being cunts: I have no affiliation in the slightest towards Somer Blink, and generally disapprove of gambling (although lotteries seem like the least disruptive form of gambling to me). It's good to have learned this meaning of 'astroturfing' though, i guess.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-12-08 18:07:03 UTC
Cristl wrote:
Apologies in advance for a little 'self-necro' What?

This doesn't sound dodgy at all

Dodixie > Hek
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#18 - 2013-12-08 19:57:18 UTC
Cristl wrote:
...would that calm things down?

Often a company will provide goods for an auction, with the proceeds going to charity. I wonder if Somer Blink pledged to use some of their extra income from the unique ships to prepare a plex for good fund, we'd feel a bit less pissed off?

It could make good publicity in the future too ("internet nerds in charity drive" news articles for example). Better than the current publicity anyway What?


Somer Blink is one of the reasons I want to be able to dock and leave my pod and shoot people in stations...
Nanatoa
#19 - 2013-12-08 23:27:14 UTC
Cristl wrote:
I just read that Somer Blink donated 4000 PLEX towards the charity drive.


That's awesome. About 1% of those PLEX is probably paid for by the 16B they scammed from me.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#20 - 2013-12-08 23:29:15 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
...they scammed from me.


How did they scam from you?
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