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Clue 3K
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-09-27 13:16:41 UTC
Salpad wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Salpad wrote:
What is the depot even supposed to do? I gave up on this silly TVitchy thing long ago, so I still haven't seen the release video. I'm waiting for it to arrive on YouTube.

It's recorded on Twitch, and Twitch is going to be integrated in EVE online, are you seriously waiting till it uploads on a different website?


I've tried using TVitchy two times, and both times given up in disgust. It's a stupid kind of service, compared to YouTube, and it makes no logical sense for CCP to choose to release new material there.

WTF is TVitchy? Is this moron trying to say twitch in a cool hip new way? or am I not familiar with such a thing as TVitchy?
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#22 - 2013-09-27 13:20:00 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

if ur also making the cyno jammer module, can you make it not come into effect immediately? If it is an instant cyno jam, seems a bit overpowered. It makes sense for defending POSes or ops in a specific system, but shouldn't be a "lets make sure this one guy isn't a bait so we dont get a fleet fight" cargo container.


Sure it should. Time to learn a new trick besides hot dropping directly on top of everyone.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-09-27 13:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: SKINE DMZ
Clue 3K wrote:
Salpad wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Salpad wrote:
What is the depot even supposed to do? I gave up on this silly TVitchy thing long ago, so I still haven't seen the release video. I'm waiting for it to arrive on YouTube.

It's recorded on Twitch, and Twitch is going to be integrated in EVE online, are you seriously waiting till it uploads on a different website?


I've tried using TVitchy two times, and both times given up in disgust. It's a stupid kind of service, compared to YouTube, and it makes no logical sense for CCP to choose to release new material there.

WTF is TVitchy? Is this moron trying to say twitch in a cool hip new way? or am I not familiar with such a thing as TVitchy?


He probably read it somewhere in a Youtube comment, same with his opinion. Blink

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2013-09-27 13:22:41 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Will it be possible to deploy a Depot within a POS forcefield to act in place of a SMA for refitting, while not taking up any POS fitting resources?


These will not be deployable within Starbase forcefields.

Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


This is essentially correct. More details will be revealed later.


if ur also making the cyno jammer module, can you make it not come into effect immediately? If it is an instant cyno jam, seems a bit overpowered. It makes sense for defending POSes or ops in a specific system, but shouldn't be a "lets make sure this one guy isn't a bait so we dont get a fleet fight" cargo container.

I think they mentioned something about it needing to "spool up", no idea how long though.

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Lugalbandak
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-09-27 14:11:23 UTC
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?


good question , i hope so

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#26 - 2013-09-27 14:20:22 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?


good question , i hope so


Dude, they already answered to this question in this very thread.
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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-09-27 14:47:13 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

if ur also making the cyno jammer module, can you make it not come into effect immediately? If it is an instant cyno jam, seems a bit overpowered. It makes sense for defending POSes or ops in a specific system, but shouldn't be a "lets make sure this one guy isn't a bait so we dont get a fleet fight" cargo container.


Sure it should. Time to learn a new trick besides hot dropping directly on top of everyone.


so you want less fights? that's all the cyno jammer is causing if it works instantly. If it works on a timer, at least it would prevent escalation while still allowing two fleets to come into contact much quicker. If a fleet is found it makes sense to go directly to them through a cyno rather than going 12 jumps. you should know who can drop in your range anyways if you are in a fleet.

dropping a timed cyno would mean the dropper is saying "we can fight, if you wont escalate". It makes more sense than dropping a jammer and killing only a hotdrop's bait. Don't you want a fleet fight?

If a cyno jammer module is meant to give smaller fleets a chance to fight other fleets, it should have a timer so the fleet can engage without escalation. That or it prevents capitals from jumping. Otherwise, it is just causing both parties to not get a fight, and instead one of them might get 1 kill. Hooray, you ganked something, does roaming around in a gang and ganking 1 guy make you cooler than the people who hotdropped with a similar sized fleet?

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-09-27 15:04:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
CCP Paradox wrote:
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?

Subsystems is a different story, at the moment no the structure will not allow that. Once we do decide to do T3 subsystem refit though, it will affect all fitting services while in space.

Quick edit: We have decided to do T3 subsystem refits, it's just a matter of deciding when to do it.


What's taking you so long? you added personal hangars to player owned structures. Is it really that hard to add a new structure that will allow refitting?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#29 - 2013-09-27 15:14:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I played ST: Starfleet Command some time ago, back in 2002. There was really nice mechanism for boarding parties in space, you could take over some ships. Could it be implemented in these new structures, so we can get them, not destroy them? Throwing some militia in the special bays for ship and those structures, and making the surprise attacks, if it would be not sucesfull the structure would be immune for some time to it. What do you think?

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#30 - 2013-09-27 15:31:41 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
[quote=Salpad]

Well, come november, it will be integrated into Eve, so hopefully you will find clicking play a bit easier


It's odd that I've never had any problems using YouTube. Right from the first time I visited that site, back in 2007 or maybe 06, I could get videos to play, no problem at all. But TVitchy just gives me an empty screen and no option to view stuff that was streamed at an earlier time. It's utterly beeptarded.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#31 - 2013-09-27 15:38:14 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?

Subsystems is a different story, at the moment no the structure will not allow that. Once we do decide to do T3 subsystem refit though, it will affect all fitting services while in space.

Quick edit: We have decided to do T3 subsystem refits, it's just a matter of deciding when to do it.


What's tanking you so long? you added personal hangars to player owned structures. Is it really that hard to add a new structure that will allow refitting?

T3s cannot be undocked unless they have all subsystems fitted. That is they were never intended to be in space with less than all subsystems. Im guessing the game is not coded to handle such a case. All the refitting services from modules require the ship be in space, and thus there is a clash there that needs to be resolved.

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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#32 - 2013-09-27 19:30:23 UTC
Why do we need this structure?

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#33 - 2013-09-27 19:38:03 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Why do we need this structure?


So that you can refit your max yield Hulk for max escape velocity without warping back to station.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#34 - 2013-09-27 19:40:49 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

so you want less fights? that's all the cyno jammer is causing if it works instantly.


Hint: Not everyone gets their fights by cynoing in on top of one another.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#35 - 2013-09-27 19:57:24 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


Call me weird, but if *i* was stalking in enemy territory I would not leave my campfire lit 24/7 so everyone knows that i'm there and where to ambush me, and would consider a "freeze" spell a lame defense at best.

Translation: Depots should cloak when the owner is not logged in. That would make life difficult to the 40 thieves and a tad easier to Ali Baba (and would make a hell more of sense).

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#36 - 2013-09-27 20:00:44 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


Call me weird, but if *i* was stalking in enemy territory I would not leave my campfire lit 24/7 so everyone knows that i'm there and where to ambush me, and would consider a "freeze" spell a lame defense at best.

Translation: Depots should cloak when the owner is not logged in. That would make life difficult to the 40 thieves and a tad easier to Ali Baba (and would make a hell more of sense).


umm no. its goes into reinfoce... and at that time you can simply load the thing into your haulers cargo and move it.

sorry

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Furious Enterprises
#37 - 2013-09-27 20:06:13 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


Call me weird, but if *i* was stalking in enemy territory I would not leave my campfire lit 24/7 so everyone knows that i'm there and where to ambush me, and would consider a "freeze" spell a lame defense at best.

Translation: Depots should cloak when the owner is not logged in. That would make life difficult to the 40 thieves and a tad easier to Ali Baba (and would make a hell more of sense).


You are going to get some bites with that.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#38 - 2013-09-27 20:44:10 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


Call me weird, but if *i* was stalking in enemy territory I would not leave my campfire lit 24/7 so everyone knows that i'm there and where to ambush me, and would consider a "freeze" spell a lame defense at best.

Translation: Depots should cloak when the owner is not logged in. That would make life difficult to the 40 thieves and a tad easier to Ali Baba (and would make a hell more of sense).


umm no. its goes into reinfoce... and at that time you can simply load the thing into your haulers cargo and move it.

sorry


I do know what it does in EVE. It shouts "I AM HERE, COME FOR ME AND TAKE MY STUFF" 24/7 even if you only use it 1/24.

Stalkers don't behave like that. But then, this is EVE...

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#39 - 2013-09-27 20:54:02 UTC
Reinforce mode plus the flagging for shooting it, seems enough but it would not be easy mode.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#40 - 2013-09-27 20:55:45 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP said they will have a reinforcement timer, and that you can scoop up your stuffs from it while it's reinforced. So as long as you check on it regularly (or pay attention to your mails if it sends mails), you are fine.


Call me weird, but if *i* was stalking in enemy territory I would not leave my campfire lit 24/7 so everyone knows that i'm there and where to ambush me, and would consider a "freeze" spell a lame defense at best.

Translation: Depots should cloak when the owner is not logged in. That would make life difficult to the 40 thieves and a tad easier to Ali Baba (and would make a hell more of sense).


umm no. its goes into reinfoce... and at that time you can simply load the thing into your haulers cargo and move it.

sorry


I do know what it does in EVE. It shouts "I AM HERE, COME FOR ME AND TAKE MY STUFF" 24/7 even if you only use it 1/24.

Stalkers don't behave like that. But then, this is EVE...


and how often does your ratting small pos in npc space get put into reinforce... i guess i depends on where and what you are doing.

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