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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#61 - 2013-09-27 19:51:44 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
You are right, Harry. I already packed all my stuff and will be moving back to high-sec. You won. Good game, sir, good game.


I hope you can get that bottle cap pried from your head before you head back home to hi-sec. The care bears don’t tolerate those type of deformities.
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-09-27 19:55:33 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol


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So now we went from shooting cyno frigs to single-handedly burning down nullsec stations?


yes, guerilla warfare gets support, I already did a billion of damage, with more tools I gonna blast them to heaven, If they don't get me, they will just repair their stuff, no more titans they build



Usually I don't use absolutes but this time I will. You have not done over a billion damage in isk to the cfc. And you cannot count that loki or various blockade runners that don't belong to the cfc
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#63 - 2013-09-27 20:01:27 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol


╔╗╔═╦╗
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So now we went from shooting cyno frigs to single-handedly burning down nullsec stations?


yes, guerilla warfare gets support, I already did a billion of damage, with more tools I gonna blast them to heaven, If they don't get me, they will just repair their stuff, no more titans they build



Usually I don't use absolutes but this time I will. You have not done over a billion damage in isk to the cfc. And you cannot count that loki or various blockade runners that don't belong to the cfc


a lot more than a billion, including the loci its 2,5 billion, you guys are just sleeping while i shotdown your haulers and stuff, but thats fine, time changes, solo pilots have been there for years to assure you noobs get some easy kills within your fleets of thousands, now time changes, and you puppies are there for us, payback time we trash your stations, its our turn now, thanks for building all that stuff out there we can set on fire

go back into your station, hush hush

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#64 - 2013-09-27 20:03:57 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, thanks for response although I can't say I understand your drive to save pixel world from domination of cartels. This is just a game and it really is insignificant in one's life. Sure it takes time and/or money - so does any other hobby - but in the end it is somebody's business that provides you with entertainment. And you can drop the very second you don't get what you want from it. So I guess you get exactly what you want.

And for Harry I have another question: WTF are those bombs you keep talking about? Did I miss second part of stream or sth?


we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#65 - 2013-09-27 20:07:48 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide


Can you entertain me with a source of those revelations?

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#66 - 2013-09-27 20:09:05 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, thanks for response although I can't say I understand your drive to save pixel world from domination of cartels. This is just a game and it really is insignificant in one's life. Sure it takes time and/or money - so does any other hobby - but in the end it is somebody's business that provides you with entertainment. And you can drop the very second you don't get what you want from it. So I guess you get exactly what you want.



I, like many, consider this a hobby.
I invested a LOT of time and effort in the game in 2008/2009, well before I was fully aware of the rise of the goons and the creation of the cartels (BoB was bad, but not like this).

So I have a lot emotionally invested in it (if you think some of these null sec guys don't get way way over the top, try listening to Grath or Shadoo), and I hate the thought of all that time wasted. I also hate injustice, of any kind, and when evil triumphs. I fight that when I can. And this is a forum I can fight, in my own way, an entity where its actions define and display the greed and evil of its members.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#67 - 2013-09-27 20:14:52 UTC
I tend not to listen RL politicians or egomaniacs so I won't care about what pixel equivalents say either :)

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#68 - 2013-09-27 20:16:23 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide


[CITATION NEEDED] or alternatively, can I have some of the stuff you are smoking, and how many countries is it legal in?

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Winchester Steele
#69 - 2013-09-27 20:21:54 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?


Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.



Holy **** guy. Is this what it looks like when someone loses all contact with reality? You need to shut the PC down and go get some fresh air.


But hey, what do I know. I voted for Harper the last 2 elections in a row ( and the next one too ). Unless Mittens wants the job.

Mittens for PM 2015!


he's absolutly right, you guys are just brainwashed, thats why we need to blast you guys, we bring freedome with bombs to assure you wake up



Us guys? I'm no goon friend, I am a solo pubbie for the most part. However, unlike you and ole' chemtrails pirannha here I am not shocked and appalled that people working together in an MMO are succeeding.

I also try to refrain from painting large groups of people with one prejudicial brushstroke. (You know... 21st century, educated, not a blithering sperglord, etc etc)


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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#70 - 2013-09-27 20:23:12 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide


Can you entertain me with a source of those revelations?


just use common sense, guerillas deploy bombs, the issues are their invunerable stations, just put 1 + 1 together

maybe the CFC will get some flowers and cakes, no problem, thats what they need out there to make new friends

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-09-27 20:25:06 UTC
I love Harry Forever posts. What did the Magic crystal ball tell you this time Harry?

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2013-09-27 20:25:22 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Harry:

Maybe the idea of Guerilla-style tactics referred to the EAF extended range, and the nerfed acceleration and agility of large ships relative to small ships, and the buffed inty.

Or the ability to ninja steal moon goon with the siphon modules.

Of course, that is just pure marketing garbage.
Small squads will still not be able inflict any real damage on the cartels, as even if they can tackle something big, by the time they can inflict enough damage on a large target to truly threaten it, the large target can still batphone for tons of support.

As for siphoning tons of moon goo from the cartels, you still have to be able to get in, and then get out. Many of the lucrative moons are well beyond any jump capabilities of ships, and even if they were in jump range, sorry, jumping a squad in of 10 billion worth of BLOP's is NOT what I would call Guerilla class tactics, or cost.

If CCP had followed through with moon goo ring mining, and the ability to ninja-mine a whole ring in short order, that would be more hurtful towards the cartels. But the cartels quashed that concept fast.

No, this release is just more of the same.
Null sec gets a bigger chunk of the high sec income, as they will quickly control all the lucrative planets in high sec.

I am still waiting for high sec T2 industry to be handed to null sec.
Then again, I figure now that the high sec POCO thing was just the first step.
Why ban T2 mfg in high sec when you are planning on making the high sec NPC stations conquerable, and after the summer release, the null sec cartels will control all the high sec mfg slots?


i think you underestimate how many people are going to be using those siphons. especially if people get sent mails about their **** being stolen. Also if blops isn't about guerilla tactics i don't know wth is. Finally wh's lead from everywhere to everywhere eventually. lots of random wh's take you to dull null space where no one undocks. If their moongoo is being stolen maybe they will undock now. ofc if they siphon it too slowly no one will care to use them or to defend them but done properly it will be noticed by the bean counters

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#73 - 2013-09-27 20:28:39 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide


Can you entertain me with a source of those revelations?


just use common sense, guerillas deploy bombs, the issues are their invunerable stations, just put 1 + 1 together

maybe the CFC will get some flowers and cakes, no problem, thats what they need out there to make new friends


Common sense is such a strange phrase when used by you. You are reading too much into marketing hype. Faster warps for small ships and few deployable structures is all you will get. Mines were removed ages ago and bombs are already in game for you to use.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#74 - 2013-09-27 20:28:39 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?


Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.



Holy **** guy. Is this what it looks like when someone loses all contact with reality? You need to shut the PC down and go get some fresh air.


But hey, what do I know. I voted for Harper the last 2 elections in a row ( and the next one too ). Unless Mittens wants the job.

Mittens for PM 2015!


he's absolutly right, you guys are just brainwashed, thats why we need to blast you guys, we bring freedome with bombs to assure you wake up



Us guys? I'm no goon friend, I am a solo pubbie for the most part. However, unlike you and ole' chemtrails pirannha here I am not shocked and appalled that people working together in an MMO are succeeding.

I also try to refrain from painting large groups of people with one prejudicial brushstroke. (You know... 21st century, educated, not a blithering sperglord, etc etc)




large group of pleople have to fall, they need to be broken up to assure something new can emerge, its like the tower of bable, it needs to crumble... there is reason behind it, think about it

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#75 - 2013-09-27 20:30:02 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
we get timebombs, mines, all kind of stuff, it does not matter people will burn, we put to use everything CCP will provide


Can you entertain me with a source of those revelations?


just use common sense, guerillas deploy bombs, the issues are their invunerable stations, just put 1 + 1 together

maybe the CFC will get some flowers and cakes, no problem, thats what they need out there to make new friends


Common sense is such a strange phrase when used by you. You are reading too much into marketing hype. Faster warps for small ships and few deployable structures is all you will get. Mines were removed ages ago and bombs are already in game for you to use.


oh god how foolish of you, i hope the thunder we unleash out there won't wake you up, you see to be sleeping very well indeed

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-09-27 20:32:08 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

I hope you can get that bottle cap pried from your head before you head back home to hi-sec. The care bears don’t tolerate those type of deformities.


I know, most of them are very intolerant against minorities or people with disabilities. I will have to shower them with more Antimatter or Void until they accept my loving embrace.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2013-09-27 20:33:15 UTC
haven't sov-owning nullseccers including XGOONX been asking for small-gang sov activities for years?

looks like ccp's playing right into their hands

you read that right this change is ccp giving nullseccers exactly what they want

how do you think this is a good thing harry

this is the last nail in the coffin that is now mostly made of nails
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#78 - 2013-09-27 20:35:16 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
oh god how foolish of you, i hope the thunder we unleash out there won't wake you up, you see to be sleeping very well indeed


There's no time to sleep. We have hisec POCOs take over to plan.

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Winchester Steele
#79 - 2013-09-27 20:37:02 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
haven't sov-owning nullseccers including XGOONX been asking for small-gang sov activities for years?

looks like ccp's playing right into their hands

you read that right this change is ccp giving nullseccers exactly what they want

how do you think this is a good thing harry

this is the last nail in the coffin that is now mostly made of nails



Are you implying that Goons have CCP right where they want them?

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2013-09-27 20:40:09 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
haven't sov-owning nullseccers including XGOONX been asking for small-gang sov activities for years?

looks like ccp's playing right into their hands

you read that right this change is ccp giving nullseccers exactly what they want

how do you think this is a good thing harry

this is the last nail in the coffin that is now mostly made of nails



Are you implying that Goons have CCP right where they want them?

right where they want them within their iron claw of foul misdeeds, injustice, &etc., &etc.