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rapid heavy missile launchers and incursions?
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Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#1 - 2013-09-27 16:54:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Mole Guy
tell me this isnt going to be kewl!
bs dps against smaller ships with bs hp?

niiIIIiiice!

so CCP, will this be considered a bs sized weapon or will ships specifically have to gain bonuses for heavy missiles for this bs weapon to work better? like the caracal gets bonuses to heavy or lights, should the bs's be looking at gaining bonuses for these new heavies? can we expect to see these bonuses to RHML on the golem?


how about the new golem now? new golem tank and killer dps on small frigs/cruisers?

thoughts?

i thought about this afterwards...class 1-3 worm holes. all the frig and cruiser based sleepers will be shredded..
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#2 - 2013-09-27 17:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Harvey James
i just think its ridiculous too have more of these OP nonsense mods...
each class should use weapons designed against the same class.
otherwise most of the advantage of being the smaller class is just eroded away after they just made the smaller classes worth using again.

all these Rapid nonsense should be deleted and then just add missiles that track better and use explosion radius bonuses on ships instead. like the caracal navy issue.
so
- Medium assault missiles as the better tracking version of HAMS with a launcher with lower fittings than HAMS
- and some variation of torps much like the above functions

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#3 - 2013-09-27 18:30:05 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
i just think its ridiculous too have more of these OP nonsense mods...
each class should use weapons designed against the same class.
otherwise most of the advantage of being the smaller class is just eroded away after they just made the smaller classes worth using again.

all these Rapid nonsense should be deleted and then just add missiles that track better and use explosion radius bonuses on ships instead. like the caracal navy issue.
so
- Medium assault missiles as the better tracking version of HAMS with a launcher with lower fittings than HAMS
- and some variation of torps much like the above functions
I couldn't disagree more. Having RHMLs for BS sized ships makes a ton of sense. It adds in more wildcard factors into seeing another BS beyond "cruises or torps," which we all know is going to mean torps. Don't forget that they only bonus HMLs, so dps is going to be more limited, the ships won't provide bonuses to rapid heavy launchers and another BS will absolutely destroy it with BS-sized weapons, or even medium weapons with high-damage, close range rounds.

RHMLs will be a TON of fun. HAMs still out dps them at closer range and BS-sized weapons will destroy other BSs. All is right in the Universe.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#4 - 2013-09-27 18:47:06 UTC
Harvey James wrote:

each class should use weapons designed against the same class.


I totally agree.

When I am in my battleship, frigates, cruisers, and battlecruisers should not be able to do damage to me. Their weapons should be designed only to harm one another.
ApolloF117 HUN
The All-Seeing Eye
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#5 - 2013-09-27 18:50:45 UTC
stop the crying and wait for the infos...
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-09-27 19:09:05 UTC
If it is an exact copy of the comparison of between the light missile launcher and rapid light missile launcher then you can expect it to have 20% better ROF.
Which will make them powerful but not OP in the long run. When I have a chance I will post some numbers of the comparison of cruise missiles vs rapid heavy missile.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-09-27 19:20:44 UTC
Assuming the Raven gets a 5% ROF bonus to the RHML.
With 4 Ballistic Control II and caldari navy missiles we are looking at
Cruise Missiles: 729DPS
Rapid Heavy Missile: 451DPS

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
HardRockLife
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
#8 - 2013-09-27 19:53:45 UTC
ApolloF117 HUN wrote:
stop the crying and wait for the infos...

Nono its stop crying and load the CN Infernos!!
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#9 - 2013-09-27 20:00:06 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Assuming the Raven gets a 5% ROF bonus to the RHML.
With 4 Ballistic Control II and caldari navy missiles we are looking at
Cruise Missiles: 729DPS
Rapid Heavy Missile: 451DPS


Sounds about right in comparison to RLML bonused cruiser hulls.

Now to start stomping on cruiser gangs with that nano Phoon.