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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#41 - 2013-09-27 14:57:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Nick Curso wrote:
Iwan Pawlow wrote:
stuffz, can haz I???



.....

To be fair, we should have a lottery for his stuff. Administered by Somer maybe.
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#42 - 2013-09-27 14:57:53 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Bye, I'll follow suit in a few weeks... for the most expensive, subscription based game in the market, it simply is too lacing in too many ways... and the mew, "future vision" CCP seams to have right now will not make that any better.



Leave now instead

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Clue 3K
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-09-27 14:59:49 UTC
Lee Saisima wrote:
Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.

I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay £9.99 / month. So that's £39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.

It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?

So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.

Goodbye.

I thought I saw you posting making fun of those bitching about the ships being introduced and the 3rd party ordeal? Was that all sarcasm or is this another stupid trolling by you?
I'm only on this because my main, Tron 3K, is banned till 9/30/2013! Don't give me any likes!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#44 - 2013-09-27 15:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op.

Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.

If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.

If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.

I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Multor Kaston
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-09-27 15:33:47 UTC
Lee Saisima wrote:
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling..
This is exactly it.

Whether it's changes to the UI, enforcing the TOS or how they hand out prizes... they constantly make the wrong, illogical decision.

I as well will never give them 1 cent of mine again. I can just take about 30% of my earnings (if even) and buy the PLEX on my own while I still want to keep playing.

The nail in the coffin is how they play favorites. It's as you said: A nobody can get permabanned for the most minor of infractions, but a somebody can get a slap on the wrist for committed the worst of infractions.
Tractus Vesica
Helghast Empire
#46 - 2013-09-27 15:39:33 UTC
Lee Saisima wrote:
Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.

I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay £9.99 / month. So that's £39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.

It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?

So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.

Goodbye.


Translation: I'm a whiny *****.

Excelling in all things terrible.
Reckless Ourtomineng
#47 - 2013-09-27 15:47:06 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op.

Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.

If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.

If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.

I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.


I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care.
With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#48 - 2013-09-27 15:59:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op.

Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.

If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.

If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.

I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.


I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care.
With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive.

That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone.

No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Random Majere
Rogue Fleet
#49 - 2013-09-27 16:11:22 UTC
From what I learned in a marketing course I once took, apparently 96% of unhappy customers don’t complain, however 91% of those will simply leave and never come back.

I think OP is providing CCP a service by giving them "feedback" on why he is leaving. Cool
Reckless Ourtomineng
#50 - 2013-09-27 16:23:50 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op.

Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.

If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.

If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.

I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.


I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care.
With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive.

That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone.

No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free.


The continue your way i'll do the same, thanks.
Random McNally
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#51 - 2013-09-27 16:35:41 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op.

Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.

If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.

If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.

I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.


I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care.
With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive.

That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone.

No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free.

I cannot "like" your post enough, Ranger. Thank you.

However, I will point out that in the rage of all the people threatening to quit, if you donate all your items and isk to me, I will distribute them as prizes for listeners of the podcast. I can assure you that the items will be destroyed in a manner that CCP will find repugnant, thus "Sticking It To The Man".

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#52 - 2013-09-27 17:17:54 UTC
Don't worry; they'll be back. P
No one puts that much effort into a 'goodbye' that they really mean.
If they meant it, they'd have just un-sub'd and been gone; no muss, no fuss, over and done.
Zoe Kaltana
Kaltana Industries
#53 - 2013-09-27 17:18:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoe Kaltana
Lee Saisima wrote:

...
SadSad
SadSadSad
SadSadSadSad
CryCryCryCryCry
...

So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.

Goodbye.


I always understood myself as an isk-shitting-cash-cow...don't be so insulting to mee!

Pinups | Bloodhorses
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-09-27 17:20:52 UTC
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Zoe Kaltana
Kaltana Industries
#55 - 2013-09-27 17:23:00 UTC
omg s***!!

...stuffz? ...pleaze?

Pinups | Bloodhorses
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#56 - 2013-09-27 19:01:46 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.



This...


But, Stoofs yours i can Haz?

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Random Majere
Rogue Fleet
#57 - 2013-09-27 19:13:45 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.


Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!!
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#58 - 2013-09-27 19:16:20 UTC
Random Majere wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.


Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!!


Zimmy wont mind you contracting it all to me for safe keeping Blink

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#59 - 2013-09-27 21:09:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Random Majere wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.


Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!!

::Slurps in accidental drool, acts casual:: Interesting. What kind of [ahem]... stuff?
Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
#60 - 2013-09-27 21:19:26 UTC
Awww, you don't want me to blow up your ship anymore? Fine...I'll look for others in the next expansion Twisted

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