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mingetek
Brainless in Space
#1 - 2011-11-13 01:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: mingetek
the first mission of the day after a downtime is ALWAYS a anti faction mission.
if you turn it down you wont get offered another till after the next downtime and be only offered "normal" missions..
and if you take the mission you may or may not get more antifaction mission that day.

duscuss
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Akuma Tsukai
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-13 03:47:02 UTC
How about no?
Gees, missioneers are already carebearing and yet they STILL whine about their "precious" faction standing?
You can decline faction missions ure so concerned about every once in a while for free already. Thats good enough for ya.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-11-13 03:52:36 UTC
Hmmm, I don't think that would go over good considering there's more than 1 type of Faction. Suppose a player is only looking for Amarr Faction encounters and get's offered a Gallente encounter. That player turns it down and now won't get any more Anti-Empire Faction mission offers for 24 hrs, not good.


If looking to lower the chance of getting offered any Anti-Empire Faction missions. I've found that by having positive standings with all Empire Factions, I almost always get offered Anti-Pirate Faction missions.

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Goose99
#4 - 2011-11-13 05:38:29 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think that would go over good considering there's more than 1 type of Faction. Suppose a player is only looking for Amarr Faction encounters and get's offered a Gallente encounter. That player turns it down and now won't get any more Anti-Empire Faction mission offers for 24 hrs, not good.


If looking to lower the chance of getting offered any Anti-Empire Faction missions. I've found that by having positive standings with all Empire Factions, I almost always get offered Anti-Pirate Faction missions.

This thread would probably be better posted in the sub forum channel - 'Features and Ideas Discussions'.


You won't get multiple opposing faction anti-faction missions from any empire agent. For example, Minmatar gives anti-Amar mission, but never anti-Gallante. What you described is impossible.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2011-11-13 06:41:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
Goose99 wrote:
You won't get multiple opposing faction anti-faction missions from any empire agent. For example, Minmatar gives anti-Amar mission, but never anti-Gallante. What you described is impossible.


Unless you work for different agents in different factions, of course.

Also, I could see where you'd, say, work for Gallente and take anti-Amarr but not anti-Caldari. So there's that.

Edit: I guess I should have added: this whole thing is a solution hunting for a problem in the first place. If this is the "answer to anti faction mission" then what was the question in the first place? Is declining somehow not good enough all of the sudden?
mingetek
Brainless in Space
#6 - 2011-11-13 10:00:13 UTC
Akuma Tsukai wrote:
How about no?
Gees, missioneers are already carebearing and yet they STILL whine about their "precious" faction standing?
You can decline faction missions ure so concerned about every once in a while for free already. Thats good enough for ya.


i dont turn down anti faction missions .

also DeMichael Crimson, there is no direct anti faction missions. most missions i get are vs galante. i only get ONE mission vs matar. not including any storyline missions.
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Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#7 - 2011-11-13 21:58:33 UTC
Pirate missions most certainly get missions versus multiple factions, for the record.
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#8 - 2011-11-15 16:16:15 UTC
What, you only have one agent? o.O;

Get a spare and decline any low ISK, faction, or annoying missions. Keep a good mission around for when a faction one comes up. Use another corp if there is not another decent one close by.
Kesshisan
#9 - 2011-11-15 16:54:01 UTC
I don't understand the problem. With halfway decent social skills (which take barely any time to train even if you're not mapped for them) you should be able to run missions non-stop for a single agent and decline every single faction mission without losing your capabilities to run level 4 missions.

Of course you may end up with a bad string of luck once you hit 5.0 standings, but after you hit about 6.0 standings with the corporation, it is highly unlikely that you will ever end up in a situation where you have to decline the missions to a point where you cannot run level 4 missions anymore.

One uppity Amarr agent I dealt with once demanded that I shoot at Minmatar three times in a row. I told her to shove it, and afterwards I was still at greater than 9.0 standings with her corporation. I've even taken missions, got distracted by something shiny, then jump cloned away from that region only to realize "oops, mission expired" a week later, yet I still have very high standings despite this happening more than once with this same uppity Amarr agent.

I really don't understand how people have problems with declining a mission now and again, or even 4 or 5 times in 4 hours. If you do your non-faction missions, you won't run out of standings.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#10 - 2011-11-15 17:03:30 UTC
Kesshisan wrote:
I don't understand the problem. With halfway decent social skills (which take barely any time to train even if you're not mapped for them) you should be able to run missions non-stop for a single agent and decline every single faction mission without losing your capabilities to run level 4 missions.

Of course you may end up with a bad string of luck once you hit 5.0 standings, but after you hit about 6.0 standings with the corporation, it is highly unlikely that you will ever end up in a situation where you have to decline the missions to a point where you cannot run level 4 missions anymore.

One uppity Amarr agent I dealt with once demanded that I shoot at Minmatar three times in a row. I told her to shove it, and afterwards I was still at greater than 9.0 standings with her corporation. I've even taken missions, got distracted by something shiny, then jump cloned away from that region only to realize "oops, mission expired" a week later, yet I still have very high standings despite this happening more than once with this same uppity Amarr agent.

I really don't understand how people have problems with declining a mission now and again, or even 4 or 5 times in 4 hours. If you do your non-faction missions, you won't run out of standings.


I have to say, of all the times I have lost accsess to agents, I never once lost it on corp standing, always on the faction standing dipping below -2 and this was always caused by storylines or FW promotions deriving negative standing. I agree with you, it just isn't that bad to take a small hit to decline a mission, assuming you still run storylines, your faction can take quite a few hits, and if you grind regularly for one corp, you could probably take a hit to your standing everyday and still be fine.
mingetek
Brainless in Space
#11 - 2011-11-15 18:20:41 UTC
what if the only other lvl 4 combat agent is 10 jumps away and you want antifaction missions?
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Kira Deschain
Arcane Odyssey
Electus Matari
#12 - 2011-11-15 20:06:16 UTC
mingetek wrote:
what if the only other lvl 4 combat agent is 10 jumps away and you want antifaction missions?


Then you may look into relocating yourself to an area with a better selection of combat-mission agents. There are lots of areas which fit that requirement, TBH. An unwillingness to move yourself into an area more suited to what you are looking for is not a reason for CCP to make a change which would affect every other player in EVE. No offense, but it sounds like you know what the solution is but you just don't want to relocate.