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DEVSWARM OP: CCP Should Give Goonswarm Trillions Of Isk Worth of Crap

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Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#161 - 2013-09-26 22:25:47 UTC
Eezee Gonozal wrote:
Lee Saisima wrote:
Blink has a business plan and Goonswarm doesn't. Goons are small-fry nowadays anyway.



1. Get trillions worth of free ships from CCP
2. Sell those ships to the Eve community.

It's the same business plan that Somer has.


Note quite true. Somer adds in their own scam in the middle so they make way more per ship than just selling them would.

It's such a good scam that CCP fell for it hook, line, sinker, and golden magnate.

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#162 - 2013-09-26 22:26:58 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


1) Get a life, browse-refreshing and posting for hours is not healthy.

2) Likes are worthless anyway, if I wanted to have 16000 likes I should just start liking my posts with my alts like others do.

You're meant to be less transparent when crying "get a life!" to try to insinuate the other person isn't just naturally better than you, but must be instead working unusually hard to achieve it.

(Tippia is just a better poster because he makes sense and you ramble on endlessly whilst randomly insulting people)

((For like 1bil ISK I can give you lessons they're really good))

(((3 brackets lol)))

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#163 - 2013-09-26 22:28:20 UTC
Also CCP need to take away Weaselior's "post" button and replace it with a "dunk" button because it's all he does.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#164 - 2013-09-26 22:31:30 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


1) Get a life, browse-refreshing and posting for hours is not healthy.

2) Likes are worthless anyway, if I wanted to have 16000 likes I should just start liking my posts with my alts like others do.

You're meant to be less transparent when crying "get a life!" to try to insinuate the other person isn't just naturally better than you, but must be instead working unusually hard to achieve it.

(Tippia is just a better poster because he makes sense and you ramble on endlessly whilst randomly insulting people)

((For like 1bil ISK I can give you lessons they're really good))

(((3 brackets lol)))


People who usually make sense to one self are usually those who agree on most matters.

But a disenting opinion on the other hand sounds rather foreign and nonsensical.

Not to say the person who you are disagreeing with isn't a crap poster to being with. But understand everyone has a bias about people they agree with.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#165 - 2013-09-26 22:35:15 UTC
Can we get a CCP employee in this thread to confirm that Goons have honoured every single recruitment offer ever made, and that they are completely trustworthy
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#166 - 2013-09-26 22:46:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
1) Get a life, browse-refreshing and posting for hours is not healthy.
Life gotten; browser refreshes itself; posting takes minutes. Blink

Careful, Blink would ban you for auto refresh Blink.


So that just gave me an epiphany.

Remember that recent mess with roleplay channels? How devs no longer hang out in them because some channel admin decided to ban other players?

Fast forward to fair distribution of spawned assets by a corp that bans users from accessing their system at their discretion, preventing them from having a shot at these ships? Further note how the actions resulting in these bans are for breaking made up rules and actions that take place entirely out of game - auto refresh browser, multiple account achievement abuse based on IP addresses, etc.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#167 - 2013-09-26 22:46:43 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Can we get a CCP employee in this thread to confirm that Goons have honoured every single recruitment offer ever made, and that they are completely trustworthy

…for certain values of “honoured” at least. I'm sure they have a near-100% consistency in how those offers play out. P
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#168 - 2013-09-26 22:59:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Can we get a CCP employee in this thread to confirm that Goons have honoured every single recruitment offer ever made, and that they are completely trustworthy

…for certain values of “honoured” at least. I'm sure they have a near-100% consistency in how those offers play out. P

They play out according to the rules listed on their web site, just like blink. And there isn't even any fine print to worry about.
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2013-09-26 23:09:26 UTC
Vald Tegor wrote:
They play out according to the rules listed on their web site, just like blink. And there isn't even any fine print to worry about.

Well, one goon actually sponsored their mark into Waffe. But don't worry, we purged both the mark and the guy with extreme prejudice, so our record is still 100% clean.
Te Tumatauenga
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#170 - 2013-09-26 23:11:30 UTC
On behalf of TEST I would like to echo my learned colleague's call for CCP to recognise the value they add to this game. Very recently we have been the recipient of many hundreds of man-hours of consultancy work resulting in the rightsizing of our organisation and the freedom from the shackles of sov warfare that so many of our own leadership had promised but been unable to deliver on. Even putting aside the value they have added to CCP through content creation and marketing fodder there is a strong case to be made that their involuntary management consulting and highsec community outreach work qualifies them for direct remuneration from CCP above and beyond what has already been provided to them via the "broken" technetium system.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#171 - 2013-09-26 23:14:16 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Vald Tegor wrote:
They play out according to the rules listed on their web site, just like blink. And there isn't even any fine print to worry about.

Well, one goon actually sponsored their mark into Waffe. But don't worry, we purged both the mark and the guy with extreme prejudice, so our record is still 100% clean.

Well, I'm convinced.
CCP should definitely hand me a Polaris cruiser and the prerequisite skillbook(s).
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2013-09-26 23:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Weaselior wrote:
With the official CCP announcement that in the interests of "community engagement" groups of players that CCP decides they like will be given piles of rare or unreleased ships to make a private profit off, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for goonswarm to be the next in line for massive unregulated handouts to people a random dev decides they like.

Goonswarm has done more for raising EVE's profile and gathering new players into EVE than SOMER or any other CCP partner. It is goonswarm that makes international news when we butcher some worthless alliance that barely puts up a fight, or decide to pay half of empire to kill the other half, magic trillions of isk out of thin air by breaking a headline patch feature, or our many other delightful exploits. And we bring a constant stream of new players into EVE, to fill our ranks. Given the precedent set by the SOMER gifts, no player group deserves a free handout more than Goonswarm. And no player website deserves a handout more than goonfleet.com.

Now, some people might argue that it would be favoritism to give them to us, as we'd just keep them rather than run a for-profit lottery for the ships to convert them to isk like SOMER would. I assure you nothing is farther from the truth. Rather than have some dumb ship I too will ensure that the ships are available to the EVE public, at the fairest price possible (the highest price the market will bear). That means any EVE player will have a fair chance to get the ship rather than having to lose scads of money in a for-profit gambling scheme.

Now, some people might protest that we're only in it for ourselves. And those people certainly have a point: just like a for-profit gambling corporation that maintains its "trust" solely because that keeps the money flowing, we look out for #1. But as we look out for #1, we provide great benefits to the EVE population at large. We spend our vast sums of money creating content and obliterating abscesses on the eve community like highsec miners, and TEST.

Some people might also claim that giving us ships would be blatant favoritism. To that, I can say nothing but that I agree - but since CCP has now decided they're openly showing favoritism by gifting hundreds of billions of isk worth of ships to SOMER, surely EVE's most successful alliance deserves some favoritism too. Some might argue that we should not be creating new unique ships, and that may be a fair point: I will happily accept sabre BPOs and other t2 BPOs as a replacement care package.

CCP has argued that SOMER is a fitting partner because they are "honest", though studiously avoiding actually claiming they've investigated to determine SOMER is honest and also studiously avoiding promising they would do anything if SOMER just walked off with all the ships. Some might argue Goonswarm therefore does not qualify. To that, I have a simple argument: SOMER openly tells you that it will take your isk, tells you how, and then takes your isk. So too does Goonswarm tell you we're going to take your isk, tell you how we're going to take your isk (after all, our public wiki specifically tells you what's going to happen with your security deposit) and then we take your isk. That is just as honest, if not more honest, than SOMER: after all, our odds are public while you have to do a little math to figure out SOMER's.

Do the right thing. Give Goonswarm hundreds of billions of isk. Nay, give us trillions: we are better than SOMER and deserve greater CCP largesse. Thank you for your time, and the sabre bpos we so richly deserve.

+1 for crying Goons. Let me dry those tears for you, I'm in 7X-02R stealing your anoms. Bring your own tissues....

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#173 - 2013-09-26 23:16:54 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Vald Tegor wrote:
They play out according to the rules listed on their web site, just like blink. And there isn't even any fine print to worry about.

Well, one goon actually sponsored their mark into Waffe. But don't worry, we purged both the mark and the guy with extreme prejudice, so our record is still 100% clean.

Kind of like that guy with a director alt in blink that stole some stuff, right?

I'm sure that would never happen with special prizes like these though.
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2013-09-26 23:18:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
CCP should definitely hand me a Polaris cruiser and the prerequisite skillbook(s).

They'd be nice collector's items, but Polaris requires Polaris V to train so having the book won't actually help
Kuni Oichi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2013-09-26 23:27:46 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

+1 for crying Goons. Let me dry those tears for you, I'm in 7X-02R stealing your anoms. Bring your own tissues....


Our anoms? Well, time to pack up, irrelevant insignificant acts are the bane of our existence.
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#176 - 2013-09-26 23:34:14 UTC
Kuni Oichi wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

+1 for crying Goons. Let me dry those tears for you, I'm in 7X-02R stealing your anoms. Bring your own tissues....


Our anoms? Well, time to pack up, irrelevant insignificant acts are the bane of our existence.

It's not irrelevant, it's helping the Military index of the system.

Don't tell him he's helping though, it might discourage him. He might get an expedition and die with the loot on the way out.
Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
#177 - 2013-09-26 23:43:22 UTC
I can hear the splash of those goon tears echoing off the sides of the universe. Theres a big Echo in here.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#178 - 2013-09-26 23:43:41 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Also CCP need to take away Weaselior's "post" button and replace it with a "dunk" button because it's all he does.

Chaos dunk

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Osabojo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2013-09-26 23:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Osabojo
Infinity Ziona wrote:

+1 for crying Goons. Let me dry those tears for you, I'm in 7X-02R stealing your anoms. Bring your own tissues....


Oh, I remember you. You and your corp mate L-DOPA were in that same crappy part of Fountain the other night and believe me, nobody cares. Though it was fun listening to him beg me to leave in local.
Zareph
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#180 - 2013-09-27 00:27:30 UTC
I approve this request.