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CCP reintroducing the Gold Magate and adding in new Guardian-Vexors through Somer Blink
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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#381 - 2013-09-26 21:22:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
You know CCP, when you have Chribba, pirates, hisec bears, Goons, former BoB members, PL members, newbies, veterans, bittervets, collectors, and basically everyone in this game that isn't a complete troll or Blink fanboy telling you that you're doing something completely wrong to the point where you're repeating the same mistakes that caused the media storm that led to your creation of the very player council you failed to consult on this issue, you are seriously screwing up.


Andski agrees with bears in a post. When that happens, it can't be wrong.
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#382 - 2013-09-26 21:37:36 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Entity wrote:
They already backpedalled. You can lower the pitchforks (though keep them handy)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281298&find=unread

Don't be so blind. They're trying to capitulate over specifics so they can go ahead with their overall plan without people acting so mad about it.

They're not giving out the legacy ships but are still spawning items for an ingame group simply because the devs like them.


Oh, my eyes are wide open, make no mistake there.

My primary concern was them essentially destroying EVE by reintroducing dead and presumed "discontinued" limited ships (given their previous commitment to not re-issuing said ships).

The act of sponsoring does not bother me that much. BIG Lotteries also got sponsored and not many cried foul over that.

The problem I have now is with Somer getting exclusivity to a ship class, but this is not nearly as profoundly wrong as dishonoring EVE history.

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Weynard
Hauptberufliche Steuerhinterzieher
#383 - 2013-09-26 21:52:21 UTC
CSM STILL REVENANT

...just joking, I guess it was just a case of "People we're going to consult about super important things WHEN WE FEEL LIKE IT."

CCP, there are times when you are doing things really, really, really right. Rubicon sounds great! And then there are times when you really, really, REALLY mess it up hardcore. First T20, then micro transactions and now T20 all over again? I mean, what the ****ing ****? Isn't it enough for 20 pages full of players complaining to you, including two of the most prominent of them all, about you giving exclusive shiny **** to people who don't deserve it? Why do you keep coming up with these horrible, horrible plans?

:(
Leontyne Gaterau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#384 - 2013-09-26 21:52:48 UTC
lmbo at "dishonoureing EVE history"
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#385 - 2013-09-26 22:00:46 UTC
Leontyne Gaterau wrote:
lmbo at "dishonoureing EVE history"


Yeah, I was going to write something far less subtle but decided to make the post a tad bit nicer sounding just before hitting enter.
I'm glad you were amused though.

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Serenety Steel
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#386 - 2013-09-26 22:07:07 UTC
What a pile of Shizz!

CCP should should be the ones to give the prizes out even tho i disagree with handing out limited edition ships like the GVex!

Not through a 3rd party site that will make isk from it! bad move CCP!

Rant over

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Petrov Kreigt
Magister Mortalis.
#387 - 2013-09-26 22:08:05 UTC
Andski wrote:
You know CCP, when you have Chribba, pirates, hisec bears, Goons, former BoB members, PL members, newbies, veterans, bittervets, collectors, and basically everyone in this game that isn't a complete troll or Blink fanboy telling you that you're doing something completely wrong to the point where you're repeating the same mistakes that caused the media storm that led to your creation of the very player council you failed to consult on this issue, you are seriously screwing up.


'Nuff said.
Langbaobao
Tr0pa de elite.
#388 - 2013-09-26 22:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Langbaobao
Definitely a bad decision. What's dead should stay dead. What's up with these zombi special edition ships?

On a more serious note, it's bad for the game because it devalues the work of others, it devalues the player stories that have shaped EVE as a universe and it undermines your credibility. If rare 'never to be reprinted' ships suddenly start to be minted again, what's next? Consensual PVP?


CCP, you are essentially destroying the legacy of EVE.
Molly Poppers
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#389 - 2013-09-26 22:21:32 UTC
I think this is a bad idea. What is going to happen to the massive amount of ISK generated from these lotteries. Does Blink keep it?
I pretty sure Blink doesn't need more ISK!

If you insist on "un-destroying" unique ships... why not give the ships to "C" and let him do a free lottery draw for everyone.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#390 - 2013-09-26 22:21:42 UTC
Beyond terrible. Seems like pups at the wheel these days.

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Medreena Burstin
Galactic Salvage Corporation
#391 - 2013-09-26 22:28:44 UTC
This has got to be the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. Two things come to mind:

- We already know from history lotteries for ingame items that are different than what everyone else can get is bad. I.e. T2 Lottery.
- Why have a lottery for ships that already exist?

Want to have one for a new ship model, that's still bad, but better. God CCP is ******** sometimes, and why would the CSM even agree to such idiocy.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#392 - 2013-09-26 22:36:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
You know CCP, when you have Chribba, pirates, hisec bears, Goons, former BoB members, PL members, newbies, veterans, bittervets, collectors, and basically everyone in this game that isn't a complete troll or Blink fanboy telling you that you're doing something completely wrong to the point where you're repeating the same mistakes that caused the media storm that led to your creation of the very player council you failed to consult on this issue, you are seriously screwing up.


I really hate it when I have to agree with Goons <3
Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#393 - 2013-09-26 22:40:48 UTC
I'm not even going to quote this, I'm just going to steal it:

You know CCP, when you have Chribba, pirates, hisec bears, Goons, former BoB members, PL members, newbies, veterans, bittervets, collectors, and basically everyone in this game that isn't a complete troll or Blink fanboy telling you that you're doing something completely wrong to the point where you're repeating the same mistakes that caused the media storm that led to your creation of the very player council you failed to consult on this issue, you are seriously screwing up.

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
#394 - 2013-09-26 23:17:08 UTC
Iwan Pawlow wrote:
Thebriwan wrote:
I don't believe in artificial rarity.

They may be hard to get, they may given out at special circumstances, but there should be a chance for everyone to get one - even if it is merely theoretical.


There is/was always the chance. Earn enough isk and try to convince a holder of a rare item of selling it.


This attitude always gets to me. If EVE were run this way, there would be unbeatable POSes. It is simply not the EVE Online way.

The lottery idea is horrible. I hope CCP puts at least some effort into making sure it is run legitimately.
Cierra Royce
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#395 - 2013-09-26 23:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cierra Royce
If they really must hand out new ships and fanfest tickets, then they should just leave the ships in a few special anomalies randomly scattered through high, low, worm and null. Let us go out and find and fight over them.

No Directly enriching one bunch of players at the expense of all others by spawning them items, doesn't matter if it's special ships or 5 tn isk of Veldspar or Sabre BPOs. Don't do it.
Deckard Reinheart
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#396 - 2013-09-26 23:41:12 UTC
As someone who's only been playing for a couple years so far and never got to see either of these ships when they were first introduced, I'm am against the idea of reintroducing them.
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#397 - 2013-09-27 00:35:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
"Here's how it works: Any time you play any Blink, you receive 1 ticket to the drawing (even if you buy more than one ticket). Plus, if you win the Blink, you receive bonus tickets based on the size of the Blink."

Hey guys just give this player-run entity more ISK and you'll have a better chance of winning these things we're having them give away!


Unless you got banned from Blink and can't buy a ticket. Because we totally trust their discretion in banning players from their third party web site. For actions taken entirely out of game. Based on rules they themselves made up. That in some cases are not even listed on the site itself.

What happened to
CCP Falcon wrote:
Due to complaints regarding overzealous player moderation on this channel, everyone from CCP who has been interacting here will be withdrawing from doing so. The same goes for "The Summit" and "Live Events" The reason for this is that we can't allow players to be locked out of interaction with us based on grudges that are held between players.
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#398 - 2013-09-27 00:36:45 UTC
Asayanami Dei wrote:
Jita Riot 2013!

Redux

Wasn't there one over ToS non-changes recently?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#399 - 2013-09-27 00:39:52 UTC
Cierra Royce wrote:
If they really must hand out new ships and fanfest tickets, then they should just leave the ships in a few special anomalies randomly scattered through high, low, worm and null. Let us go out and find and fight over them.


It's not just a fanfest ticket, it's an all-expenses paid trip. This isn't a typical promotion, they're promoting the hell out of Blink so that people will buy GTCs and blinks in hopes of getting a ticket. There is no other reason they would even entertain the thought of offering an all-expenses paid trip as a promotion for a bloody fansite.

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Sir Gankal0t
5th Element Incorporated
Corelum Syndicate
#400 - 2013-09-27 01:03:55 UTC
Seems like a good way to **** all over anyone's desires of owning a collection of rare ships if they just start churning out these "extinct" ships at a whim.