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DEVSWARM OP: CCP Should Give Goonswarm Trillions Of Isk Worth of Crap

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#141 - 2013-09-26 19:41:18 UTC
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#142 - 2013-09-26 19:48:36 UTC
Vald Tegor wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Hey goonies:

1) make your own content (your version of blink)
2) war dec blink
3) content I suppose .. But not really

As for you guys constantly saying you are "creating content", how's it content if it doesn't affect most people playing the game again? Give everybody in eve a fully fitted Rifter and you earned your internet meme "delivering content".

Oh right .. Posting tears on forums is now content .. Le sigh

Now let's see who get the prizes ...


Hey Mr GRR GOONS

Do you understand the concept of ship replacement programs funded at an alliance level?

You see, goons go out and get blown up by pubbies. The alliance then pays to replace that ship, so the goon can fit a new ship and go get blown up by another pubbie instead of wasting time ratting.

That is how content is generated. From the guy doing to shooting, to the one who built the ships and mods, mined the minerals, ran the reactions, researched the blueprints, along with the market trades and transportation of goods involved.


To elaborate on this some more, Goons do not produce enough minerals internally to build the ships we go through. We buy them in highsec, then pay someone to ship them to us. Every single miner, industrialist, and station trader in EVE has made money off of of the goon war machine, and this is a trend that will continue. This is content.

Most PvPers spend at least some time trying to kill Goons, or fighting us in some way. This is content.

Every miner has had to learn to watch his back, highsec or not, because of Goons, due to the glorious Ministry of Love, as well as our various interdiction events. This was demonstrated in the last one where we had to work much harder to find targets, and they were far fewer, despite the number of miners not significantly decreasing. This is also content.

Goons engage is wars of such vast scale that they involve all of the greatest powers in the game, putting EVE and CCP in the limelight of world news, not just gaming news. We do this on a fairly regular basis. This drives content in the form of more new players signing up end interacting with the game.

And finally, Goons give reason for countless pubbies who would never do so otherwise to come to these forums and post, positive or negative, which creates engagement with the community as a whole. Even this is a form of content in what is ultimately a social oriented game.

No player group has created more content for EVE than Goons have over the years. All SOMER.Blink has done is set up a gambling site in which they are guaranteed a profit in every single lottery, and encourage people to develop a gambling addiction.

I can't tell you how many people on all sides I have seen find out about Blink, get hooked, lose all of their money in a way that does nothing to drive game content, and quit EVE. The last part rarely happens in EVE tho, since Goons tend to take care of each other, and when someone loses it all to Blink, we will usually help them recover and get back in the game.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Vance Armistice
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#143 - 2013-09-26 19:48:37 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
With the official CCP announcement that in the interests of "community engagement" groups of players that CCP decides they like will be given piles of rare or unreleased ships to make a private profit off, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for goonswarm to be the next in line for massive unregulated handouts to people a random dev decides they like.

Goonswarm has done more for raising EVE's profile and gathering new players into EVE than SOMER or any other CCP partner. It is goonswarm that makes international news when we butcher some worthless alliance that barely puts up a fight, or decides to pay half of empire to kill the other half, magic trillions of isk out of thin air by breaking a headline patch feature, or our many other delightful exploits. And we bring a constant stream of new players into EVE, to fill our ranks. Given the precedent set by the SOMER gifts, no player group deserves a free handout more than Goonswarm. And no player website deserves a handout more than goonfleet.com.

Now, some people might argue that it would be favoritism to give them to us, as we'd just keep them rather than run a for-profit lottery for the ships to convert them to isk like SOMER would. I assure you nothing is farther from the truth. Rather than have some dumb ship I too will ensure that the ships are available to the EVE public, at the fairest price possible (the highest price the market will bear). That means any EVE player will have a fair chance to get the ship rather than having to lose scads of money in a for-profit gambling scheme.

Now, some people might protest that we're only in it for ourselves. And those people certainly have a point: just like a for-profit gambling corporation that maintains its "trust" solely because that keeps the money flowing, we look out for #1. But as we look out for #1, we provide great benefits to the EVE population at large. We spend our vast sums of money creating content and obliterating abscesses on the eve community like highsec miners, and TEST.

Some people might also claim that giving us ships would be blatant favoritism. To that, I can say nothing but that I agree - but since CCP has now decided they're openly showing favoritism by gifting hundreds of billions of isk worth of ships to SOMER, surely EVE's most successful alliance deserves some favoritism too. Some might argue that we should not be creating new unique ships, and that may be a fair point: I will happily accept sabre BPOs and other t2 BPOs as a replacement care package.

CCP has argued that SOMER is a fitting partner because they are "honest", though studiously avoiding actually claiming they've investigated to determine SOMER is honest and also studiously avoiding promising they would do anything if SOMER just walked off with all the ships. Some might argue Goonswarm therefore does not qualify. To that, I have a simple argument: SOMER openly tells you that it will take your isk, tells you how, and then takes your isk. So too does Goonswarm tell you we're going to take your isk, tell you how we're going to take your isk (after all, our public wiki specifically tells you what's going to happen with your security deposit) and then we take your isk. That is just as honest, if not more honest, than SOMER: after all, our odds are public while you have to do a little math to figure out SOMER's.

Do the right thing. Give Goonswarm hundreds of billions of isk. Nay, give us trillions: we are better than SOMER and deserve greater CCP largesse. Thank you for your time, and the sabre bpos we so richly deserve.


Dear Goonswarm slime,

You are the pimple that resides on the hairy mole which grows on the posterior of New Eden but you are right in this matter , CCP is making a big mistake.

I hate you for making me agree with you.

P.s. it appears that agreeing with you disagrees with me and as a result I have given myself permanent incontinence. Shocked



Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#144 - 2013-09-26 19:52:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


That's a pretty shameful post/like ratio, frankly.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#145 - 2013-09-26 19:57:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


They already gave you an Invulnerability Field, which prevents you from dying. what more do you want?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#146 - 2013-09-26 19:58:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


They already gave you an Invulnerability Field, which prevents you from dying. what more do you want?

an omnipotence skillbook and a polaris cruiser, clearly

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#147 - 2013-09-26 19:59:30 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


That's a pretty shameful post/like ratio, frankly.

If you mean it's shameful for the blatantly wrong idiots that keep trying to argue with him, then yes.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#148 - 2013-09-26 20:03:39 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


That's a pretty shameful post/like ratio, frankly.


Some of us gave up on liking his posts when he broke 10k.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Zaepho
Goosewarms
Tactical Hunters and Gatherers
#149 - 2013-09-26 21:15:36 UTC
Gambling vs The Great Enemy that brings all of high-sec together in hatred?

CCP help us help you. Give Goons the shinys so that the rest of EVE can blow them up in gigantic fleet fights!
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#150 - 2013-09-26 21:31:57 UTC
confirmed, goons need some golden cynos
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#151 - 2013-09-26 21:33:25 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
confirmed, goons need some golden cynos


We will fit them with warp stabs.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise

ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#152 - 2013-09-26 21:34:57 UTC
Attack on CCP employee has been removed.

Forum rule 30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.




ISD Tyrozan

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#153 - 2013-09-26 21:35:56 UTC
Dear CCP,

As various NPC alts have leaked to these very fine forums, we have been on a long crusade over this last year to become what the game needs - the next BoB.
We've come very far, but alas, the last step is down to you. We need you to spawn us Sabre soon-to-be-buffed Eris BPOs so that we can assert our dominance just that little bit harder.

Please, find it in yourselves to create us stuff from thin air, such that we can finally rise to our rightful place.

Khanh'rhh
Senior Leader of BPO aquisition
Sabre Eris Specialist,
T20 division

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#154 - 2013-09-26 21:38:29 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
confirmed, goons need some golden cynos


We will fit them with warp stabs.


better fit them with your two braincells
Josef Djugashvilis
#155 - 2013-09-26 21:42:27 UTC
Dod Kalm wrote:
While I've only had a small hand in the goings on of goonfleetdottecom, i feel based on your precedent of giving worthless entities free crap, you should give me a stilleto bpo. I drive content and am far more philanthropic than somer.


Just buy your high heeled shoes in a regular shop like anyone else.Smile

This is not a signature.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#156 - 2013-09-26 21:44:17 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.

If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?

That's a pretty shameful post/like ratio, frankly.

…even better when you consider that likes only existed for less than two out of the six years I've been posting.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#157 - 2013-09-26 21:45:26 UTC
Aryth wrote:
I would like to chime in and say dev flown ships full of officer mods that die to our gatecamps is also acceptable.



You manage to be awesome in any situation. The other guy seems crying, you take it like a good sport man. Bravo!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#158 - 2013-09-26 21:53:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hey, I have 30,000 posts and 16,000 likes on this forum. This must mean that I am a large source of EVE-related content and provide entertainment for thousands of players.


If I promise to hand out rewards to random people in Jita, can I have an Omnipotence skillbook and a Polaris cruiser, please?


1) Get a life, browse-refreshing and posting for hours is not healthy.

2) Likes are worthless anyway, if I wanted to have 16000 likes I should just start liking my posts with my alts like others do.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#159 - 2013-09-26 22:02:45 UTC
I don't know. I don't really care what the Goons get, but for some reason I don't see this sitting well with the non-Goon population. (ie most of the player base)

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#160 - 2013-09-26 22:05:07 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
1) Get a life, browse-refreshing and posting for hours is not healthy.
Life gotten; browser refreshes itself; posting takes minutes. Blink

Quote:
2) Likes are worthless anyway, if I wanted to have 16000 likes I should just start liking my posts with my alts like others do.
Others might; I don't.

Hell, my most liked post ever happened when the functionality didn't even exist. Lol