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A review of player giveaways with CCP and third party sites

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#61 - 2013-09-26 19:49:31 UTC
I would still like a satisfactory explanation for the following:

1. Why was the CSM left completely out of the loop on this?

2. Why exactly has SOMER been handed a huge fortune?

3. Exactly how trust worthy is an organisation that feels it has the right to use its customers private details against them in a public thread?

Andrev Nox wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Pull Chribba Dice support in protest.


Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site?

Just curious if you'd prefer to withdraw your use of our gifts in protest :)


Original post.

I'm no fan of Poe but that is just wrong.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#62 - 2013-09-26 19:49:44 UTC
The only difference between somer and the ISK-doubling scam is that the odds are worse.

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-09-26 19:50:01 UTC
Cavalira wrote:
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items


Telling people you're doing it doesn't make it any different.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-09-26 19:50:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Ranger 1 wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps? Smile


The prizes they're donating are pitiful in contrast to what they'll gain from this promotion. They're giving 200M in blink credit to everyone that participates in the EVE Vegas PvP tournament, and 1B blink credit + PLEX to the winners. EVE Vegas is not even remotely a Fanfest-sized player gathering, and not everyone that will attend will participate in the PvP tournament. We're talking about hundreds of billions, if not trillions of ISK in exchange for a few PLEX and blink credits given to a handful of people.

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Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#65 - 2013-09-26 19:50:37 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.

So I have to hand over my information to Somer? And I reward him and his website with more hits for his advertisers? Everyone is focusing on in game rewards for him, but few have considered the RL rewards he'll be reaping.

Don't forget that's one entry, which is quite useless to begin with, and possibly 100% pointless because the whole thing might be rigged from somers end. And what you should forget is that Somer will get a trillion isk out of this whole thing. But hey, at least they don't get YOUR isk so just you should be cool about the whole thing. You know... :CCP:
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#66 - 2013-09-26 19:51:04 UTC
Zaxix wrote:

Where's my Black Frog Special Edition Rhea


+1

The Frogs (black/red/etc) work *for* the eve players. Hundreds and hundreds of people *helped* every single day, removing an otherwise incredibly tedious aspect of the gameplay.

Lotteries work at the *expense* of players, skimming 15-50% off the top as profit.




If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd think they subsidize SOMER Blink because as people lose all their ISK, they buy more PLEX which is direct cash into the hands of CCP.

Thank goodness I don't believe the above sentence and I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#67 - 2013-09-26 19:51:49 UTC
Innominate wrote:
Cavalira wrote:
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items


Telling people you're doing it doesn't make it any different.

Specifying the proceeds are to be given away as tournament prizes does.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-09-26 19:51:52 UTC
sounds like a good solution as long as you continue to give out unique items to other community projects to give away in whatever way they choose
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#69 - 2013-09-26 19:52:37 UTC
Well you've finally driven me to being one of "those guys" CCP. Congratulations

-2 subscriptions.

I see no sodding point in playing a game where the developers of the game unfairly favour and reward certain players/groups, handing them colossal advantages and making it that much harder for anyone else to compete with them.

To quote a modern day poet: c ya later shitlords
Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#70 - 2013-09-26 19:52:42 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps? Smile

No way to know if they are giving away all the profits. No way to know if the lottery if fair. And so on. Like has been said a few dozen times.
BLerchg
Perkone
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-09-26 19:53:35 UTC
i really hope that the CSM rips you a new one for showing this kind of blatant favorism
Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2013-09-26 19:53:55 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Innominate wrote:
Cavalira wrote:
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items


Telling people you're doing it doesn't make it any different.

Specifying the proceeds are to be given away as tournament prizes does.


Why not skip the unreliable for-profit middleman and give them away as tournament prizes?
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-09-26 19:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Ranger 1 wrote:
Innominate wrote:
Cavalira wrote:
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items


Telling people you're doing it doesn't make it any different.

Specifying the proceeds are to be given away as tournament prizes does.

Cool, maybe Eve bank should run the next tournament. They're another trusted third party, right? If ccp runs the tournament fine. This, no.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#74 - 2013-09-26 19:54:55 UTC
Abernie wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps? Smile

No way to know if they are giving away all the profits. No way to know if the lottery if fair. And so on. Like has been said a few dozen times.

Other than CCP believes they are trustworthy, and since all of the items in question (ISK and ship prizes) ultimately only belong to CCP it's their opinion of honesty that matters.

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Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#75 - 2013-09-26 19:54:59 UTC
BLerchg wrote:
i really hope that the CSM rips you a new one for showing this kind of blatant favorism

Speaking of which, anyone know if CSM is getting a statement together about this whole thing? There was mentions of talks in CSM member posts but that's all I know. Question
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2013-09-26 19:55:42 UTC
You've reviewed our concerns and decided to keep playing favorites with the promise of more favoritism in the future. This stinks CCP - why exactly should I bother taking space or grinding boring PVE when buttering up CCP developers is clearly the best path to untold riches?
Cierra Royce
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-09-26 19:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Cierra Royce
Gospadin wrote:
0.00000001% of the eve population care that you changed what ships you're giving away.

90% of the eve population care that CCP is funneling isk to a player corporation.

Why not just shuffle moon minerals around to favor TEST while you're at it?


Can't mine high sec moons FYI, so Test are immune from that sort of help.

But giving all the goodies to Somer Blink? What the hell are you thinking?
Why don't you add them to the eve and aurum store like blizzard do with their magic sparkle ponies, it would go down just as well with your playerbase.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#78 - 2013-09-26 19:56:35 UTC
Innominate wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Innominate wrote:
Cavalira wrote:
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items


Telling people you're doing it doesn't make it any different.

Specifying the proceeds are to be given away as tournament prizes does.


Why not skip the unreliable for-profit middleman and give them away as tournament prizes?


Apparently CCP feels they are reliable.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-09-26 19:56:43 UTC
You said something about new cruisers this winter?


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Nothing else matters for me....

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2013-09-26 19:56:54 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps? Smile

Donating means giving your own money to something. If they take other players money and give to some cause, its not donating.
And if you look at how much they plan to "donate" and apply simple math and count how much they earned from this spike because of this development, you will see that profit is much larger than donation.

Dissapointed by that decision. This is just half-assed measures in order to calm the **** storm they caused by their own poor judgement.

PS. and dont compare Eve Radio to this casino thing. They are actually providing fan service and their primary goal is not making profit but to have fun.

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