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A review of player giveaways with CCP and third party sites

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Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-09-26 19:40:51 UTC
Looking forward to the unique in-game assets that will be provided for the upcoming giveaway on goonfleet.com! Can't wait to see what I can win. Remember, anyone can join the giveaway, you just have to join the CFC
Bronco Platz
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-09-26 19:41:27 UTC
Slightly better, but still crap.

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This may not always be unique ships or Fanfest trips but could be some signed artwork to give away or PLEX to hand out.


On which base do you decide, which playergroup you support as much? What do they have to do to get liked so much they get Fantastilarden of ISK or only a Plex?

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Cavalira
Habemus
#43 - 2013-09-26 19:41:27 UTC
Please. Someone enlighten me on the following topic:

Secretly spawning t2 bpos for BoB vs. Officially giving Somer blink items
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-09-26 19:41:59 UTC
Still handing hundreds of billions to ISK out of thin air to a third party for-profit entity. Not amused.

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Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
#45 - 2013-09-26 19:42:08 UTC
Not good enough, while its good your not ruining the uniqueness side of things you are still playing favourites and that's still not good enough.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2013-09-26 19:42:31 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.

exactly what proportion of "free" tickets will there be to "paid" tickets

look guys, we give out one free ticket every hour! (and about ten thousand paid ones per hour)

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#47 - 2013-09-26 19:42:56 UTC
I am honestly baffled how it's possible you missed the point so badly...
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#48 - 2013-09-26 19:43:00 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.


What does someone, in good standing with CCP but banned by SOMER Blink do?
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-09-26 19:44:04 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.


********

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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-09-26 19:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
You remember CCP Zulu and the $1000 jeans? Right? Right? This is that level of stupid.

The last time you guys showed this level of favoritism for a player or group of players, you had to create the CSM. Think about it for a minute.
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-09-26 19:44:14 UTC
Your response doesn't specifically address how you verify for certain that these sites/groups are operating "fairly and independently." Unless you're controlling the sites and have total access to all of their operations, it is literally impossible for you to do so.

Nor does your response address why these groups deserve big piles of free ISK and goodies. You're essentially rewarding Somer for enriching himself with more riches. He hasn't grown the community, he's leeching off of its player base. People don't join EVE so they can play Somer.

I was already kind of on the fence about this sort of thing when I first found out that some website creators get totally free accounts (refer to Poetic Stanziel's posts on his site). This is something that isn't advertised or discussed anywhere. No rules or specifications are given for the conditions under which such accounts are awarded, nor the basis in logic of doing so. And NOW you're creating a similar structure to hand out in game items.

Where's my Black Frog Special Edition Rhea (best stats of all 4 races, black skin with red lights) for founding Black Frog, one of the top 5 services in EVE? Will Red Frog be getting a pile of goodies for all their services? I'm willing to bet the hit count on the Red Frog site is higher than most blogs. We all want our free stuff.

If you were looking for a way to polarize the community and set player against player at the meta level, you could not have done any better.

Bokononist

 
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-09-26 19:44:37 UTC
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

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Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#53 - 2013-09-26 19:45:48 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.

And if I disagree with the mere existence of a gambling site, and don't want to give them any material aid in the form of ISK or even PR, then I don't get a shot at any of this stuff.

Thanks for the golden pod I guess? Oh wait I paid for that, whereas Somer gets billions for free on top of the scam that suckered even CCP devs.

FAVORITISM SUCKS.

.\_/.

This is a gross violation of your own EULA, wtf?

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#54 - 2013-09-26 19:45:50 UTC
DJWiggles wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:

These new cruisers will be unique assets that will be owned only by these players. We will not give these out again.


Please make sure this is on post-it notes EVERYWHERE IN THE OFFICE!!!!!!!

As a further note, please don't just slap an Ishukone skin on them... because that is eliminating the option of offering all sorts of ships with various Corp colors in the future.

Make it something unique, so that when you ARE positioned to allow us a selection of corp color schemes on regular ships someone won't feel like you went back on your word.

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Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#55 - 2013-09-26 19:46:08 UTC
0.00000001% of the eve population care that you changed what ships you're giving away.

90% of the eve population care that CCP is funneling isk to a player corporation.

Why not just shuffle moon minerals around to favor TEST while you're at it?
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-09-26 19:46:10 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.

So I have to hand over my information to Somer? And I reward him and his website with more hits for his advertisers? Everyone is focusing on in game rewards for him, but few have considered the RL rewards he'll be reaping.

Bokononist

 
Big Lynx
#57 - 2013-09-26 19:46:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Lynx
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.


I am still not amused too. What's the problem of setting up an own lottery driven by CCP???!? Why gets SOMER Trillions in their asses for free??
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#58 - 2013-09-26 19:47:24 UTC
Aryth wrote:
Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development.

What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps? Smile

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Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#59 - 2013-09-26 19:48:04 UTC
Gospadin wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.


What does someone, in good standing with CCP but banned by SOMER Blink do?


You are out of luck just like people who don't want to make somer - the only scam endorsed by CCP - even richer.

I refuse to play even on principle. It's gambling where the odds are always, 100% in favor of the house. Making it essentially a scam. Which in EVE is OK, but not when endorsed by CCP, in violation of their own rules.

SO MAD.

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Julia Reave
Silicon Moon
#60 - 2013-09-26 19:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Julia Reave
From this thread:

CCP Navigator wrote:

[...]
We would also like to address the role of SOMER Blink in this change. They have had three years of constantly delivering on every blink, blast and bonk they have organized.
[...]


From https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3656860#post3656860 :

CCP Navigator wrote:

[...]
SOMER Blink have a history of being trustworthy and honoring every blink played without exception.
[...]
Q4, So you said earlier that SOMER Blink are trusted. Does that mean CCP is promising they will always deliver?

A4, Not at all. What I am saying is that to date they have been 100% trustful and we expect that will continue.
[...]


Emphasis in italics by me.

Would you mind proving that to an extent which leaves no shadow of doubt? How do you even know?

Even if this proof does exist and will be presented in a satisfactory manner, which I doubt, that still leaves other valid points which have been raised before of favoritism, handing out free ISK, promoting a lottery in a game which is available to teens etc.

Also:

Andski wrote:
You know CCP, when you have Chribba, pirates, hisec bears, Goons, former BoB members, PL members, newbies, veterans, bittervets, collectors, and basically everyone in this game that isn't a complete troll or Blink fanboy telling you that you're doing something completely wrong to the point where you're repeating the same mistakes that caused the media storm that led to your creation of the very player council you failed to consult on this issue, you are seriously screwing up.