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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#1 - 2013-09-26 13:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Hurt
nvm
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#2 - 2013-09-26 13:03:02 UTC
CCP never said they were intertwined. They are simply supporting Somer by giving them ships to hold this lottery. CCP has no role in Somer Blink's operations.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#3 - 2013-09-26 13:07:31 UTC
But they're spawning them free items? I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you're saying...
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#4 - 2013-09-26 13:13:51 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Now that S.O.M.E.R. Blink and CCP are official intertwined, we need to have a serious discussion about the spread charged by CCP to gamble with them. It is, after all, now effectively a game mechanic along the lines of LP payouts or clone cost.


Yup. The people that run Somer have just been designated an official agent of CCP, as CCP is using the Somer-Blink proprietary mechanics to run a CCP endorsed promotion, which will directly profit Somer-Blink.

So as an agent of CCP, they should fall under the same scrutiny as any other agent tapped by CCP for a promotion.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2013-09-26 13:18:40 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Now that S.O.M.E.R. Blink and CCP are official intertwined, we need to have a serious discussion about the spread charged by CCP to gamble with them. It is, after all, now effectively a game mechanic along the lines of LP payouts or clone cost.


Yup. The people that run Somer have just been designated an official agent of CCP, as CCP is using the Somer-Blink proprietary mechanics to run a CCP endorsed promotion, which will directly profit Somer-Blink.

So as an agent of CCP, they should fall under the same scrutiny as any other agent tapped by CCP for a promotion.


I suppose CCP also own Amazon and can demand them to change their policies too.
Lilliana Stelles
#6 - 2013-09-26 13:21:09 UTC
How is this any more intertwined with CCP than the alliances who win the AT? CCP has handed out plenty of free items in the past without it being a problem.

Not a forum alt. 
Spurty
#7 - 2013-09-26 13:23:27 UTC
wow qq more about cool stuff.

Unless you have proof they are literally handing prizes to their friends, why bother posting?

To me, it looks like a great way to get the cool stuff out to 'random people'.

No one is stopping you from setting up a competing (with blink) product.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#8 - 2013-09-26 13:23:43 UTC
**** SOMER Blink

-Signed another guy who lost hundreds of millions on SOMER Blink
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-09-26 13:31:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Now that S.O.M.E.R. Blink and CCP are official intertwined, we need to have a serious discussion about the spread charged by CCP to gamble with them. It is, after all, now effectively a game mechanic along the lines of LP payouts or clone cost.


Yup. The people that run Somer have just been designated an official agent of CCP, as CCP is using the Somer-Blink proprietary mechanics to run a CCP endorsed promotion, which will directly profit Somer-Blink.

So as an agent of CCP, they should fall under the same scrutiny as any other agent tapped by CCP for a promotion.


I suppose CCP also own Amazon and can demand them to change their policies too.

Are you saying that CCP is giving PLEX'es to Amazon for free??

If no, then its not the same.

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
Maliandra
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-09-26 13:32:51 UTC
Red Templar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Now that S.O.M.E.R. Blink and CCP are official intertwined, we need to have a serious discussion about the spread charged by CCP to gamble with them. It is, after all, now effectively a game mechanic along the lines of LP payouts or clone cost.


Yup. The people that run Somer have just been designated an official agent of CCP, as CCP is using the Somer-Blink proprietary mechanics to run a CCP endorsed promotion, which will directly profit Somer-Blink.

So as an agent of CCP, they should fall under the same scrutiny as any other agent tapped by CCP for a promotion.


I suppose CCP also own Amazon and can demand them to change their policies too.

Are you saying that CCP is giving PLEX'es to Amazon for free??

If no, then its not the same.
Exactly, lol. What a ridiculous point he had made.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-09-26 13:47:23 UTC
You try so very hard, and still fail...

0/10

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#12 - 2013-09-26 14:53:47 UTC
Wow... You have got to be kidding me... http://i.imgur.com/MmQAqIE.png
Lee Saisima
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-09-26 15:03:27 UTC
Welcome to the machine.
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#14 - 2013-09-26 15:20:05 UTC
It's a non-profit blink... The only real gain for SOMER Blink is the attention. CCP likes to do things for the active groups in their game. You guys and gals need to chill out. SOMER isn't the first and won't be the last group to get things spawned for them. How about every real life event that CCP sends plex and things to for raffles? Should all of them be considered agents of CCP?
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-09-26 15:26:12 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
It's a non-profit blink...


No, this is not how it works.
"With SOMER Blink anyone who plays a single blink (even a free promo blink) will gain a ticket to the main Blink Blast so you have a chance to win. Clearly, the more you play the more chances you have to win the blast."
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3656860#post3656860

So you are encouraged to sink as much ISK as you can into SOMER.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-09-26 15:26:38 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
It's a non-profit blink...


Except for the fact that you have to buy tickets from Blink to get a chance at the raffle. So you're right, besides the billions that Somer is going to make off this raffle, it's totally non-profit Roll
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#17 - 2013-09-26 15:28:39 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
It's a non-profit blink...


Except for the fact that you have to buy tickets from Blink to get a chance at the raffle. So you're right, besides the billions that Somer is going to make off this raffle, it's totally non-profit Roll




Except they said you can get tickets without paying so you don't have to buy anything...
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-09-26 15:29:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Rainbow Dash
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
It's a non-profit blink...


Except for the fact that you have to buy tickets from Blink to get a chance at the raffle. So you're right, besides the billions that Somer is going to make off this raffle, it's totally non-profit Roll




Except they said you can get tickets without paying so you don't have to buy anything...


Except to play the free blinks, you have to have played a blink within the last month.

Edit: I was wrong, it's worse. To play a promo blink you must have played a regular Blink in the past 48 hours. Players who have deposited more than one billion ISK into their Blink accounts are exempt from this rule.
Josef Djugashvilis
#19 - 2013-09-26 15:31:51 UTC
Spurty wrote:
wow qq more about cool stuff.

Unless you have proof they are literally handing prizes to their friends, why bother posting?

To me, it looks like a great way to get the cool stuff out to 'random people'.

No one is stopping you from setting up a competing (with blink) product.


They are, CCP are literally gifting the prizes/ships to Blink.

This is not a signature.
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#20 - 2013-09-26 15:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucine Delacourt
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
It's a non-profit blink...


Except for the fact that you have to buy tickets from Blink to get a chance at the raffle. So you're right, besides the billions that Somer is going to make off this raffle, it's totally non-profit Roll




Except they said you can get tickets without paying so you don't have to buy anything...


Except to play the free blinks, you have to have played a blink within the last month.

Edit: I was wrong, it's worse. To play a promo blink you must have played a regular Blink in the past 48 hours. Players who have deposited more than one billion ISK into their Blink accounts are exempt from this rule.




So you have used the site, have isk and/or tokens on the site, and are complaining about having to use the site?


EDIT: "But we wanted to give folks a chance at these hulls that didn't want to spend any ISK on our site too, so we moved the tickets to "any play" and are rolling any residual profit from this event back to the Vegas event sponsorship"

All the isk made is going to the Eve Vegas live event. So it is no different than every other time CCP gives away free **** to live events. Why haven't you guys thrown a fit all those times?
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