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my country isn't 'murica, but...
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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-09-25 20:22:57 UTC
...I really couldn't believe what I heard earlier on the news.

so yeah, a burglar hits a patisserie. owner, wife and owner's father are there, owner's father get shot in the hip, second shot flies out but its nobody. burglar gets smacked down by the trio, cops arrive, arrest the burglar.
court condemns him to a 4-year jail sentence and a 18.000€ fine.

ok seems nice, but...

besides him appealing for a new trial, he actually made a lawsuit against the 3 victims for roughing him up a bit, demanding 15.000€. said lawsuit was accepted by the court and there's a trial about it going at the moment too.




....****, where do I sign up for political refugee? I'm getting extremely tired of this piece of crap country.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2 - 2013-09-25 20:42:48 UTC
Grimpak wrote:

....****, where do I sign up for political refugee? I'm getting extremely tired of this piece of crap country.

When you find out, let me know. I want to abandon the sinking ship the UK is rapidly becoming.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#3 - 2013-09-25 20:48:28 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Grimpak wrote:

....****, where do I sign up for political refugee? I'm getting extremely tired of this piece of crap country.

When you find out, let me know. I want to abandon the sinking ship the UK is rapidly becoming.


sinking ship...sinking ship...

I got it! Let's all combine our resources and make a floating city on the ocean!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2013-09-25 20:50:39 UTC
God help you here in America if someone breaks into your house and you conk them on the head or something and they have not somehow injured you first.

The laws now imply that the perpetrator could have potentially been entering by mistake or something.

Shoot and kill them, and usually their family sues you for wrongful death.

Things will not go well for you at trial at all.

My father (RIP) used to say "We have too many Civil rights" which of course made me angry. But honestly, I'm starting to understand what he was really talking about.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#5 - 2013-09-25 20:51:28 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:


I got it! Let's all combine our resources and make a floating city on the ocean!


That's be great but there is a 1982 UN Resolution forbidding anything resembling "Sea-Steading".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#6 - 2013-09-25 22:23:30 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
God help you here in America if someone breaks into your house and you conk them on the head or something and they have not somehow injured you first.

The laws now imply that the perpetrator could have potentially been entering by mistake or something.

Shoot and kill them, and usually their family sues you for wrongful death.

Things will not go well for you at trial at all.

My father (RIP) used to say "We have too many Civil rights" which of course made me angry. But honestly, I'm starting to understand what he was really talking about.


Meanhwile in 'murica, you can have a car crash, ask for help knocking on someone's door, and end up shot dead by a cop.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2013-09-25 23:31:20 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
God help you here in America if someone breaks into your house and you conk them on the head or something and they have not somehow injured you first.

The laws now imply that the perpetrator could have potentially been entering by mistake or something.

Shoot and kill them, and usually their family sues you for wrongful death.

Things will not go well for you at trial at all.

My father (RIP) used to say "We have too many Civil rights" which of course made me angry. But honestly, I'm starting to understand what he was really talking about.


Meanhwile in 'murica, you can have a car crash, ask for help knocking on someone's door, and end up shot dead by a cop.


So very true. It's more like:

BANG !!!! "Stop ! Or I'll shoot !"

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#8 - 2013-09-26 05:58:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
God help you here in America if someone breaks into your house and you conk them on the head or something and they have not somehow injured you first.

The laws now imply that the perpetrator could have potentially been entering by mistake or something.

Shoot and kill them, and usually their family sues you for wrongful death.

Things will not go well for you at trial at all.

My father (RIP) used to say "We have too many Civil rights" which of course made me angry. But honestly, I'm starting to understand what he was really talking about.


Meanhwile in 'murica, you can have a car crash, ask for help knocking on someone's door, and end up shot dead by a cop.


So very true. It's more like:

BANG !!!! "Stop ! Or I'll shoot !"


Maybe he should have been armed and shoot the cops first... It's a funny place, the land where the more firearms they owe for their safety, the less safe it becomes to be unarmed or don't shoot first. Roll

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-09-26 06:50:54 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Grimpak wrote:

....****, where do I sign up for political refugee? I'm getting extremely tired of this piece of crap country.

When you find out, let me know. I want to abandon the sinking ship the UK is rapidly becoming.


sinking ship...sinking ship...

I got it! Let's all combine our resources and make a floating city on the ocean!


I like the way you think.

I hear Chinas laws are pretty sound in a logical way.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-09-26 06:57:37 UTC
What the hell is a patisserie?

No worries though... if it goes to trial the jury will have a good laugh.

If it's a bench trial the judge will have a good laugh

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-26 06:59:45 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
What the hell is a patisserie?

No worries though... if it goes to trial the jury will have a good laugh.

If it's a bench trial the judge will have a good laugh


A pastry shop.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#12 - 2013-09-26 07:48:58 UTC
Patisserie

Je suis Paris // Köln // Brüssel // Orlando // Nice // Würzburg, München, Ansbach // Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray

Je suis Berlin // Fort Lauderdale // London // St. Petersburg // Stockholm

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-09-26 08:23:00 UTC
Now i want an eclair Sad

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2013-09-26 09:04:56 UTC
Last week in Texas two men shot and killed each other in an argument over a car wash
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-09-26 11:23:53 UTC
Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2013-09-26 11:45:04 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


Maybe he should have been armed and shoot the cops first... It's a funny place, the land where the more firearms they owe for their safety, the less safe it becomes to be unarmed or don't shoot first. Roll



Adam McKay ‏@GhostPanther 8h

With 32 thousand gun deaths a year shouldn't the US State Dept issue a travel warning for US citizens visiting the US?

Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-09-26 11:46:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
dbl post Ugh

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#18 - 2013-09-26 13:44:19 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Last week in Texas two men shot and killed each other in an argument over a car wash


Was it because one of them was hiding a trailer full of methyline there?

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#19 - 2013-09-27 01:42:19 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
God help you here in America if someone breaks into your house and you conk them on the head or something and they have not somehow injured you first.

The laws now imply that the perpetrator could have potentially been entering by mistake or something.

Shoot and kill them, and usually their family sues you for wrongful death.

Things will not go well for you at trial at all.

My father (RIP) used to say "We have too many Civil rights" which of course made me angry. But honestly, I'm starting to understand what he was really talking about.

Depends on which state you're in. If you're in a 'castle doctrine' state, that's all exactly incorrect. In a caste doctrine state, once they cross the line into your house or legal domicile, you could basically kill them with an anti-tank missile, and you'd still be within your rights (presuming you have the necessary NFA paperwork for the rocket. Which you CAN get.). AND the intruder's family gets nothing but cold shoulder - A bone fide case of castle doctrine defense is a straight-up get-out-of-jail-free card.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#20 - 2013-09-27 01:45:49 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


Maybe he should have been armed and shoot the cops first... It's a funny place, the land where the more firearms they owe for their safety, the less safe it becomes to be unarmed or don't shoot first. Roll



Adam McKay ‏@GhostPanther 8h

With 32 thousand gun deaths a year shouldn't the US State Dept issue a travel warning for US citizens visiting the US?

Lol
Be more useful to issue a warning to stay out of US medical facilities - ~120K preventable fatalities per year in those.

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