Ships & Modules

I just noticed something about hybrids that just doesn't make sense, I know "why" it was done, but as for immersion and consistency with weapon descriptions and storyline this just doesn't feel right.

I've gone the "traditional" Caldari way in training Missile skills, and only recently started training gunnery or I might have noticed this much sooner.

Why do the Dual 250mm Hybrid turrets require "Large" ammo?
According to the description they are nothing more than a BS twin turret version of the Cruiser 250mm mounts.
If that is True shouldn't they use Medium ammo and modify the number of turrets( x 2 ) ?
That would make far more sense....
A Naga could then basically be mounting the equivalent of 16 x 250mm rails and use Medium ammo.

Doesn't that make more sense?

Yea, like I said, I know "Why" the Devs chose to use large ammo, but in doing so they kinda broke the weapon description didn't they.

Uhhh you mean Heavy Assault Missiles?

Not that any of that type play EVE.

I'm thinking more along the lines of game mechanics really.
I have no issue with 350mm & 425mm both using "Large" ammo, because they are both clearly in the same weapons class.
Battleship, Large Bore, Single Barrel.

But... the Dual 250mm is two Cruiser class weapons mounted in a twin turret.
They really should be treated in game as what they are...
Medium class weapons, just twice as many. I can't see where that could cause any confusion.
If anything it would breathe new life into an otherwise mediocre weapon system.
Like I said before...

A Naga armed with dual mount 250mm II's with Spike L ( 16 weapons in 8 turrets )
currently produces a base combined 87 DPS

The Ferox armed with 7 x 250mm II's with Spike M ( 7 weapons in 7 turrets )
produces a base combined 129 DPS

A Naga with 2 x 250mm II's per turret with Spike M ( 16 weapons in 8 turrets )
(if they are counted as Cruiser class)
would produce a base combined 197 DPS



Clearly, having more gun barrels pointing down range, throwing twice as many projectiles by all reason should be producing more DPS. But that is clearly not the case. A BC using the same caliber weapon systems and with HALF the number of guns, does considerably more DPS than the same caliber weapon mounted 2 per turret on a Battleship?
And everybody is Ok with this?

Ok, but a BS sized 250mm turret firing L ammo is doing far less DPS than a Cruiser sized 250mm firing M ammo.
What role is these dual mounted 250mm's BS weapons trying to fill?
It looks to me that they are near useless, and to me that's a serious Nerf job.

As many said, it's just by design. It might not make sense but that's how it is, and don't forget if it shoots M ammo then the signature resolution of the shots will be much smaller giving the Dual 250s far better tracking than it's L ammo brothers.

Hmmm.... that's a rather shaky limb you just crawled out on.
My toon name is a play off the term "Deus Ex", but not the game.
Deus Ex Machina is a literary device used my writers to interject plot twists that somehow assist the main characters.
Thus my Signature... "I'm not here to fix your problem" meaning that my sudden, unexpected appearance on the scene is usually not a good thing.

I vaguely remember the RP excuse being something like this: what you buy on the market aren't actual shells, it's just the payload material (antimatter, phased plasma, etc.). The process of putting this payload into rounds of appropriate size for your guns is handwawed away. And a dual 250mm turret would require twice as much payload as a single 250mm turret per round shot, hence using one size larger "ammo".

Smaller weapon sizes can be very useful and open up other fitting options. Generally yes, the smallest class of weapons are quite bad mostly due to range and dps issues. However that's far better than having only 1 type of weapon per class thus limiting your fitting options greatly, like missiles do.