EVE General Discussion

For hisec... Beat the new explorers into the ground, either through out-DPSing them and claiming the commander kill, or stealing the loot when they get the kill. If you steal and they shoot at you, blow them up. Discourage as many people as possible from doing exploration. I need my Pithum C-types to go back over 500mil.

Exactly - whats the point in the difference between cosmic sigs and cosmic anomalies anymore? A 30 sec time sink?

Came expecting a serious thread about the anal fixation of alien abductions.



Sigh.

Leaving disappointed.

Indeed, such a system would most clearly be reverhacked and turned upon its creators!
Such suffering would result!.
But meh we are immortal so such things should not matter.
Now if they were to do something that created a volume of space from which we could not warp- that would be horrific.

You're missing the point in your effort to win cheap interwebs points. Once upon a time people would have to clear exploration sites in lowsec using combat ships because of the rats --it was a great source of pvp that was away from the gates and stations. Now they have removed the rats and the only thing in the exploration sites are t1 frigs. The t1 frigs are like roaches - there are so many you cant stamp them out - and at the same time the comabt is so cheap and meaningless that its not even worth it to try. CCP nerfed a good source of lowsec pvp without replacing it with anything else. As a direct consequence gate and station camping have been reinforced because we've lost a source of pvp that was not on the gates.

Probing is MUCH better now, at least more ppl will want to probe now, and there will be more traffic, and drama, around WHs, many of which have for yrs been completely empty.

And no, spending an hour probing and getting few results is torture and boring, now its much faster and even semi-fun :P

I am the first to find gatecamping silly and negative to EVE and to the dynamic of pvp. But you are taking the problem by the wrong end, i fear : it's not because of the recent change of the exploration features that there are so many gatecampers, it's because of the design of the topology istelf of the space : these few bottlenecks between high/low/null.
If you want to make EVE more interesting for everyone, simply add more gates between high/low/null, add a few solar systems to double the possible roads, and the gatecampers will have to move their fat a** to find some fights. This is imo the root of the problem.
It could be solved easilly, but i doubt that CCP will ever have the courage to do it, to not risk to lose the precious subscriptions of the gatecampers and the nullsecbears who want to only have one or two gates to defend their "private" space. Maybe they are losing more subs because of players who are tired of the same few system permacamped, but go explain them that...

You hit the nail on the head, right there. If only there was some way we could worm this into the devs, we can fill this hole the OP so desperately needs. Come on devs, please worm that hole away for this ever suffering OP.....

Ahh - Love these threads. Bozo time.

READ. Its about how sites are too easy to get to - no matter what the skills. If there were EVER any lowsec or hisec sites that a 5 day old noob couldn't find, then I'm at a loss. Why is it so easy? And yes - for the twats who didn't read, it was a lowsec site I was referring to.

As for engaging in pvp - try it in a ship you use to probe sites. 1 gun? 1 drone. Lets take helios vs Imicus - and guess who would win? T2 assault frigates are barely better than a T1, T2 probing frigates are a total pvp joke. No defences, no offence - try fighting a Stealth Bomber fitted to kill you - they are super paper thin, but you cant even dent them.

I'll say i SLOWLY for you. Its about there being no 'curve' in difficulty - one sig fits all. Willing to admit nullsec is harder, but not resident there so don't care.

Edit: Double post