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Darryn Lowe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-09-04 03:40:39 UTC
Can I upgrade the size of the ore hold or is this another one of those ships where ore hold is ore hold?

42,000m3 sounds a lot but I want it for mission mining and most of that is 45,000m3. Considering I'm in a Mac it seems that dock and drop is still the best option even if it is a pain when the site is a jump or two away.

Anyone able to confirm if the ore hold is a static size or can training in Gallente Industrial increase this amount to the 45,000m3 I want/need?

Thanks for your help folks.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#2 - 2013-09-04 03:50:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Indy
Your Gal Indy skill should add 10% per level, for a Max of around 70k (edit maybe abit less like 63K).

No other way of increasing it.
Darryn Lowe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-09-04 03:54:17 UTC
If that's the case then goody. I'll get onto that right away. :-)
Baggo Hammers
#4 - 2013-09-04 04:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Baggo Hammers
Here is the description of the ship:

The Miasmos is an Industrial Ship specializing in certain types of cargo.

Traits
Gallente Industrial skill bonus per level:

10% bonus to Ore Hold capacity
5% bonus to maximum velocity

Development
Aside from being endowed with the usual hauling capabilities of Industrials, the Miasmos possesses an extra cargo bay. That bay is equipped with sealed, temperature-controlled vats, and is meant solely for ferrying all types of interstellar ore: ice, gasses and asteroids. The Miasmos was originally designed as a variant of the Iteron, but eventually evolved to perform an entirely separate role.


Try using the "show Info" button. Lots of info.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Darryn Lowe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-09-04 05:47:59 UTC
Huh? Interesting.

I have just completed Gallente Industrial skill level 1. With no modules whatsoever I have an ore hold of 46,500m3.

I must have trained something else that gives that. That's cool though because that's more than enough for my needs.
Darryn Lowe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-09-04 05:49:02 UTC
Baggo Hammers wrote:
Here is the description of the ship:

The Miasmos is an Industrial Ship specializing in certain types of cargo.

Traits
Gallente Industrial skill bonus per level:

10% bonus to Ore Hold capacity
5% bonus to maximum velocity

Development
Aside from being endowed with the usual hauling capabilities of Industrials, the Miasmos possesses an extra cargo bay. That bay is equipped with sealed, temperature-controlled vats, and is meant solely for ferrying all types of interstellar ore: ice, gasses and asteroids. The Miasmos was originally designed as a variant of the Iteron, but eventually evolved to perform an entirely separate role.


Try using the "show Info" button. Lots of info.

Yeah I missed the "per level" bit and only read the 10% bonus bit.
Kery Nysell
#7 - 2013-09-04 11:09:02 UTC
With Gallente Industrial V, I get 63.500 m³ on mine (I think, I'm at work at the moment, but definitively more than 63K).

Once more, training to Industrial skills to 5 really pays.

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Christian Gherghel
JAC Space Exploration and Mining Industries
#8 - 2013-09-25 19:21:10 UTC
hi what other skill improve ore hold capacity ? coz I have only lvl 1 to gallente indy and i have 46.200 ... why ?
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#9 - 2013-09-25 19:24:36 UTC
Christian Gherghel wrote:
hi what other skill improve ore hold capacity ? coz I have only lvl 1 to gallente indy and i have 46.200 ... why ?

Gallente industrial is the only skill that affects it. It increases the orehold size by 10% per level trained. If you train it to II, less than an hour train, you should be over 50k
Christian Gherghel
JAC Space Exploration and Mining Industries
#10 - 2013-09-25 19:28:16 UTC
aa ok stupid me ... 42.000 standard + 4200 (10% from gallente indy lvl 1 ) = 46 200
Darling Hassasin
Parental Control
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#11 - 2013-09-27 08:49:50 UTC
The fact remains that the ship is underwhelming. It has the same size orehold as its sibling has mineral hold... now the truth is last time I mined it was 2005, just after the Athens Olympics but I do recall minerals being a lot smaller than ores... or is that justme?
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-09-27 09:18:24 UTC
Raw ores do take up a lot more space than refined minerals, true. But the Miasmos can fit beautifully into a mining scheme for newer players organizing an industrial fleet. And even in higher-skilled fleets, the Miasmos can relieve an Orca of hauling duties, allowing it to stay on field and maintain its bonuses instead of having to leave the fleet when its holds are full. At under a million ISK, the Miasmos looks to me to be magnificent value for the money.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#13 - 2013-09-27 12:23:41 UTC
Andrew Indy wrote:
Your Gal Indy skill should add 10% per level, for a Max of around 70k (edit maybe abit less like 63K).

No other way of increasing it.


I think it's 67.5k or something. And you're correct, there is no modules or rigs that can increase the ore hold size further. There is no options to do so.
Kery Nysell
#14 - 2013-09-27 13:10:58 UTC
Just jumped in mine to check, with Gallente Industrial 5 you get 63.000m³ of Ore Hold ... and 550 m³ of standard hold, for mining crystals and things like that.

Definitively a good addition to a mining fleet, can haul a jetcan (and more) even with Gal Indus 1, allows the Orca to stay on-site and boost the miners, AND fits in the Orca's ship bay.

Can be armor tanked easily, or use the MWD+cloak trick, or even fit a tractor and salvager for those pesky belt rats wrecks (that you kill with your Orca's drones), etc.

Great added value for the ISKies for industrial types.

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Deunan Tenephais
#15 - 2013-10-02 02:19:36 UTC
Kery Nysell wrote:
Great added value for the ISKies for industrial types.

This, it has lots of uses, and one does not need to sacrifice hold capacity to tank it.
I tried an easy fit on it, nothing fancy at all bar some low meta mods, not even a T2 or a rig; I could even say I botched the job.
Mid: adaptative hardener, EM resist amp, 2 X medium shield extenders
Low: DC, reactive (anti-BOOM) membrane, 2 X 400mm plates
Result: 11500 EHP
Quite nice for the cost.

By the way, can the miasmos hold compressed ore, did someone try to verify it ?