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traditional melee weapons

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Yuki Todako
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-09-14 23:26:37 UTC
what are the traditional melee weapons for every race ?

or have they traditional melee weapons at all?
kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
#2 - 2013-09-15 01:17:52 UTC
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#3 - 2013-09-15 19:56:39 UTC
Yuki Todako wrote:
what are the traditional melee weapons for every race ?

or have they traditional melee weapons at all?


Khumaak.

Well, I would assume all races used the staple melee weapons we do - knives, pikes, swords, daggers etc, all crafted to suit their races' sense of taste, Aside from the Khumaak though I don't recall seeing any artwork, official or fan made.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-09-16 11:51:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
The Khumaak isn't a melee weapon, it's a replica of a ceremonial scepter that a slave once used to bludgeon their Holder to death by way of an improvised blunt instrument. Calling it a traditional weapon is much like applying the same description to a bishop's Crosier.

I think it can safely be assumed that all cultures of New Eden came up with some variant of the sword, spear, axe and shield, those being the staples of warfare throughout human history for the reason that they're A: practical, B: relatively easy to make.and C: relatively easy to learn how to use effectively. If you were to drill down into it you might find that, say, an ancient pre-Raata K'vire-tribe war axe is a very different beast to the raiding hatchets of the Mikramurka Sebiestor, or that an Achuran Katana bears very few similarities to a Jin-Mei Painblade

Bear in mind though, that each of these homeworlds is just as populous and culturally diverse as Earth, so there's probably no such thing as a "Gallentean warhammer" - there'll be Caillean Longhammers, and Garoun Bec-de-Corbin and Rouvenorean War-Mauls and stuff like that, with subtly different variants being made as the decades pass and new generations of armorers are apprenticed in the craft and build on the work of their masters. an ancient weapons enthusiast could spend their whole career drilling down into the minutiae of the martial history of individual continents or even nations.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Teinyhr
Ourumur
#5 - 2013-09-16 12:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Stitcher wrote:
The Khumaak isn't a melee weapon, it's a replica of a ceremonial scepter that a slave once used to bludgeon their Holder to death by way of an improvised blunt instrument. Calling it a traditional weapon is much like applying the same description to a bishop's Crosier.


Except it's being referred to as a weapon in the description - The weapon itself is a three-foot rod with a spiked solar disc on the top, the design of the original relic believed to date back to the pre-Reclaiming era of Amarrian prophet Dano Geinok. It isn't believed to have been intended as a weapon originally,

Looking at this artwork it looks like a morningstar slash halberd, which certainly could be used to kill. Its very symbolic nature would have been of immense value to the Minmatar Rebellion during it's early days.

I agree with the rest of your post, but had to correct you on this one.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-09-16 14:02:36 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Except it's being referred to as a weapon in the description - The weapon itself is a three-foot rod with a spiked solar disc on the top, the design of the original relic believed to date back to the pre-Reclaiming era of Amarrian prophet Dano Geinok. It isn't believed to have been intended as a weapon originally,


ANYTHING is a weapon, to somebody who's psychotic/skilled enough. Pencils, drinking cups, ladders, candlesticks, a shaped rock... The same goes for a Khumaak. It's a ceremonial "weapon" that would actually be hideously impractical for use in battle against somebody armed with a weapon that was specifically designed for the job. There's actually a Victorian gentemanly martial art for self-defence with a walking stick, but that doesn't make a walking stick a practical weapon, just more practical than nothing.

There is a difference between a weapon and a weaponized bit of glitzy jewelery: the former having been designed from the ground up to do a particular job very well is going to outmatch the latter, which is a shoehorned retcon of an existing item.

Khumaaks aren't intended for use in actual combat between soldiers, they're purely ceremonial. yes, you can kill somebody with them, and I daresay it'd be easier than killing somebody with, say, a table leg, but they're still a long way from being a practical, working weapon of war.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-09-19 21:21:04 UTC
Not exactly on-point, but... the chronicle Cold Wind has dark ages Caldari using pikes and arrows and "slicing each other." OK, I admit, it's not much to go on.... Smile
Jikane Ronuken
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-09-25 06:00:18 UTC
If I recall correctly, the old Minmatar racial picture (the one that showed up during character creation) featured a female Matari wielding some form of blade.

I'm sorry I can't find the picture.