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WH Blobs and BOB's will.

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Winthorp
#61 - 2013-09-24 00:12:23 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Ok, back on topic!


In these forums? Are you high son?
Cheiya
Perkone
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-09-24 00:53:00 UTC
Jess Tanner wrote:
Cheiya wrote:
Jess Tanner wrote:
max ericshaun wrote:
Personally, I'm not a fan of the three day siege of another group's hole. As stated before, it is just not fun. It honestly does just turn in to ganks. I'm not a fan of "fight us or get evicted". Having said that, if the alliance calls for us to help, we go help.

Suicide is the newest and smallest corp in KILL, and you are much more likely to find us nosing around for fights with 10 or less. Chances are, if you come across us, we won't have much for numbers, but we'll likely give you a fight. And we'll happily die to you as our name suggests. Smile



Maybe thats why,
you guys,
didn't show...


We provided as many people as we could and rivaled other corps in their numbers. Just because we don't enjoy something, doesn't mean we don't attend. Come on man..


Sure man, no problem, lets hash it out in alliance chat... wait, Ooo. NVM.


Yes, I enjoy the part where after being proven wrong you resort to pointless (attempted) insults ._.
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
#63 - 2013-09-24 01:07:58 UTC
Cheiya wrote:
Jess Tanner wrote:
Cheiya wrote:
Jess Tanner wrote:
max ericshaun wrote:
Personally, I'm not a fan of the three day siege of another group's hole. As stated before, it is just not fun. It honestly does just turn in to ganks. I'm not a fan of "fight us or get evicted". Having said that, if the alliance calls for us to help, we go help.

Suicide is the newest and smallest corp in KILL, and you are much more likely to find us nosing around for fights with 10 or less. Chances are, if you come across us, we won't have much for numbers, but we'll likely give you a fight. And we'll happily die to you as our name suggests. Smile



Maybe thats why,
you guys,
didn't show...


We provided as many people as we could and rivaled other corps in their numbers. Just because we don't enjoy something, doesn't mean we don't attend. Come on man..


Sure man, no problem, lets hash it out in alliance chat... wait, Ooo. NVM.


Yes, I enjoy the part where after being proven wrong you resort to pointless (attempted) insults ._.


False, I only stated the fact that you guys pretty much didn't show to an alliance op, also I pointed out that you could no longer converse with me in alliance chat.

Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
Cheiya
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-09-24 01:09:31 UTC
HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2013-09-24 02:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: HerrBert
I hate you all. AND **** EVE! But here a quick reality check back on the TOPIC ... CURSE YOU CURSED BRONYA.
* i m tired *

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Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2013-09-24 03:10:03 UTC
HerrBert wrote:
I hate you all. AND **** EVE! But here a quick reality check back on the TOPIC ... CURSE YOU CURSED BRONYA.



P
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-09-24 03:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayeson
HerrBert wrote:
I hate you all. AND **** EVE! But here a quick reality check back on the TOPIC ... CURSE YOU CURSED BRONYA.

But where shall I start.
Let's go back in History and see what we got ...

2 Years ago, Rooks and Kings v k162 (Xtrah: NoHo wasn't mentioned in the clarion call) were the really BAAAD Entities, if a C6 into C6 came on Scanner.
But beyond that the c5s where wildlands and not many had settled in the C5>C5 statics. But in the following 2 years alot more corps flurished and before you ask why? There is only one reason, well three but one stands out! Corp Bookmarks are the Holy Grail of Bob. With this simple implementation it was suddenly way easier to train new guys into scanning, also the "post/pre downtime signature identification" helped alot ... of course way before that a team of scientific super nerds laid out the foundation for the corps with Project Atlas. With more interest "even mapping" became more sufisticated, breeding the 2nd generation of Wormhole Mega Corps (SSC Kill, VoC, HK, Whale Grith, Polarized, Wormhole Kid and his scary wormhole people (lova ya EXOOO) and many more like the polish troopers from ash alliance... or even the germans which have their own blobb. So by now we have 3 key ingrediants in todays wormhole enviroment the "medium and small" corps are desperatly depending on...
and it's pathetic how some people think "there aren't any "good fights" ....

most problems of "good fights are because the connections happen off timezones" or are derived from "fear" (sorry guys low on numbers) or actually meeting off timezone... but who in their mind keeps an off timezone "megacorp" hole open to wait till everybody is ready till then they make your life miserable, there is also the natural distrust because its "hard to max out a 3b hole... (Max 3 Caps medium Subcap force) ..... although a GOOD C5 Escalition crew has always A FAIR CHANCE (3 - 4 dreads 2 archons 5-6 webbers) ... if you are lower on numbers then that you are doomed to fail at logistics and timedifferences anyway... or are here just for carebearing.... and will be strucken by the wrath of bob formally known as Blood Union.
Okay thats the mayor issue... also the problem of it getting popular to always bring caps to a fight ... which already scares people to jump into the home of a megacorp ... because hell ... sooooo maaaaannyy Caps... bringing in caps with the intend of crashing the hole could also be considered suicide (how about a budget pvp cap from that carebearing money gotta start somewhere to get cap expierence). But okay i know it suxx to loose a dread ... i heard singing helps sometimes or giving away the fitting... (Hey atleast you got the HULL :D)


So now we are approaching Winter 2013 and during the past year many corps reached something called "Critical Mass".
It's a state of active Members which can't be sustained by the home sites. So then some of those guys started going out doing Expos and later set up full blown gold mines, and of course shout out to the c5 normads. So these Mega Corps come in to new way of playing eve by sustaining multiple holes. Sure in reality its a dedicated team but still its from a Megacorp. So you can say they are claiming "Land". So while you have now a Sperm load of solid third generation Wormhole corps coming up, they want their own adventures and they will :) (goldenspoon fed) Because think about it small guys these mega corps need to balance their **** themself because who da **** wants to leave a friend behind because the enemy is complaining that you are blobbers... that's silly. A good run need admiration not "crude forum threads". Also there has always been groups splintering of mega corps/alliances taking a lot of knowledge with them.
And this is what its all about, the more knowledge comes into play in wormhole space the easier it gets.(Sometimes CCP helps too but thats mostly involuntary or TwoStep did it) Just sit tight and always be blood thirsty, Bobs plan is still not at its end, we are cavemen stepping into the light.

And for all the stick hugging non believers the TL:DR as Bob would say it

If you don't want to fight, don't fight and fear the consequences.
If one is outnumbered but safe in the field, ask for a meeting at the sun.
If one is caught with his intergalatic dreadnaught pants down farming, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN!
This how it has been and how it always will be.


2nd TL:DR
I m starting to hate Eve-Wspace and Siggy (The Mapping tools) for all what they did to help this forum decay, people should use txt files for sigs again, with all the bitterness we have in a region where you should actually shouldnt GIVE ANY FUKCS (shoutout to Sed and Sean the only
people i ever met that embraced that.)


3rd TL:DR
The amount of SOLO FIT Suggestions on this forum is to damn high, send the noobs to the hell they belong and we know as battleclinic fitting tool.


Father Bert got into the Ceremonial Wine Locker Again.....

SOMEONE GET THE STICK!!!!

I ♥ the orthrus
HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2013-09-24 03:34:11 UTC
you still owe me a meeting

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QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#69 - 2013-09-24 03:42:43 UTC
I must say I am mostly happy with the comments in here. Its amazing.

But I must say, it is pretty sad seeing that the vast majority of the groups listed in the screenshot from my OP are just gone. The sad state is that many groups are just no longer around anymore or have decided that "they dont like blobs" and broke up.

HK on good days can put together 20-30 T3s and on very good days 40-50. These number may seem high, but in reality thats not much higher than most groups WERE able to put together as recent as 3 months ago. What happened? We used to be able to roll into just about any major group and goad a fun fight out of them.

Now a days it seems like the only people who we roll into are the leftovers from Talun or TL. Or we roll into the failed corps from polarized EA or Disavowed.

Exhale is simply a joke. (Even chitsa jumped ship...)

Bitten never want to fight. They just put a bait orca onto our hole and try to close us out and get the 2-3 ships that get caught in the trap. Seriously guys bring the fight. We have had on good authority times where you pulled this stunt when you OUTNUMBERED us. But I guess you were just too afraid to fight us.

I have nothing to say about blood union. We have almost never ran into them. Plus they cleaned out W-space... So thats a plus in my book.

VOC and SSC are cool dudes.

Noho even have my respect because on the rare occasions they roll into us, they fight.

But the rest? Seriously. Does anyone have the ability to fight anymore? I mean I understand if you roll into us and you see that big ole scary KILL logo by our names, but you gotta stop and remember. HK is the only entity in our hole. No one else. We will happily bring our 20 duders to your hole for some pew any day of the week. We will even trap our own capitals in your hole to achieve our goals of sating BOBs thirst for blood.

I dont even know anymore. Seems like the only people who are brave enough to fight us nowadays are CVA.
HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2013-09-24 03:47:34 UTC
There is hope you havent rolled into yet.

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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-09-24 03:52:59 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:

I think a very important question at the moment is - Why don't more people want to live in C6 wormholes?


Too much traffic, too little payout over C5s; very easy to be found. All the chest-beating 6 months ago about burning "care bears" out of C6s for crushing holes while they were doing sites.

Not much reason to go to C6s where you're more likely to have somebody randomly come into you. That's entirely my mindset as somebody who has never lived in a C6, but if it's not true, that's definitely the perception of us non-C6ers.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#72 - 2013-09-24 04:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Fremen
This thread. Where have all the no*ucks gone? It's funny how only the "notable" orgs have a prima donna tear about blobs in wspace, but the low-key ones are still gung-ho, I wanna make a waves, will fight you, idgafjesus. Just tonight, I get this after trying to ninja-warp someone. ♥datfreshmeat♥

It's all just care-a-lot now.
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2013-09-24 06:18:30 UTC
my suggestion:
If you're not living in the same hole, dont be blue. Shoot each other instead.

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Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-09-24 07:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
QT McWhiskers wrote:

Now a days it seems like the only people who we roll into are the leftovers from Talun or TL. Or we roll into the failed corps from polarized...


Excuse me? Please clarify which corps you are referring to when you speak of failure.

From my perspective exhale/polarized. achieved a lot and it got to the point that there were very few alliances capable of offering us the challenge our members needed, so it was inevitable that we would change our approach and restructure over time.

It seems to me that you are left trailing in our wake, trying to imitate a style that has been proven, by multiple groups, to be unsustainable. Some would say that makes you the failure.
Jay Joringer
13.
#75 - 2013-09-24 07:52:11 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
But the rest? Seriously. Does anyone have the ability to fight anymore? I mean I understand if you roll into us and you see that big ole scary KILL logo by our names... blah blah blah


I'm sure they do, but not on the scale you're expecting. You've mentioned pretty much everyone who are big enough to field comparable T3 fleets and willing to use them. It's been mentioned before that those models are unsustainable, and that's a view I've always had and obviously one that many other people share.

Most other groups will be lucky if they can get 10-20 people online at any given time, so yeah, your 30 man T3 fleet wont look like much to them at all. More like a whole load of lossmails waiting to happen with nothing to show for it when all's said and done. It ain't who you are that's scary, it's how many you are.

Then to top it off, people burn them out of WH space because they "don't fight". Some of those corporations will develop into PvP entities given time (and there are a few that are well on their way). You just got to remember their definition of a fight is probably very different to yours.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-09-24 09:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
QT McWhiskers wrote:

But the rest? Seriously. Does anyone have the ability to fight anymore? I mean I understand if you roll into us and you see that big ole scary KILL logo by our names, but you gotta stop and remember. HK is the only entity in our hole. No one else. We will happily bring our 20 duders to your hole for some pew any day of the week. We will even trap our own capitals in your hole to achieve our goals of sating BOBs thirst for blood.

I dont even know anymore. Seems like the only people who are brave enough to fight us nowadays are CVA.


Yeah i know. Remember this pathetic effort in your home system? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCDppFf01kg

Listen to how bored our fc sounds. It's no wonder we look to null/low sec if this is all people have to offer.

Seriously, once your alliance gets bored doing what everyone else has already done and your member are tired of having unchallenging arranged fights at the sun, you might find find your way in eve but a second whiny forum post won't fix your problems.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#77 - 2013-09-24 12:11:01 UTC
I'm genuinely curious as to what these "achievements are, actually. Please enlighten. Because we've got achievements that have resonated through out Eve in it's entirety, well beyond wspace. The significance, of course, is relative. So, I'm sincere when I ask what Polarized. and Exhale. named achievements.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#78 - 2013-09-24 12:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Hidden Fremen
Rek Seven wrote:

Yeah i know. Remember this pathetic effort in your home system? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCDppFf01kg

Listen to how board our fc sounds. It's no wonder we look to null/low sec if this is all people have to offer.

Seriously, once your alliance gets bored doing what everyone else has already done and your member are tired of having unchallenging arranged fights at the sun, you might find find your way in eve but a second whiny forum post won't fix your problems.


Why do they let you post? Some perspective http://killalliance.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13278. 12 to 42. If this isn't hypocrisy... I, too, would be bored by those odds. I'd probably even feel bad. Instead of thanking us for giving you free kills, you're trying too hard to shame us. We've been saying we're bad, silly. Just wish you'd admit you were, too.

Hey, Lead Farmers? Remember that one drunken night we fought Polarized., out-DPSed and out-logied, when they ran when Blue popped their Falcon? What were their last words before they jumped and GTFO? "Sorry, we only blob." Lol.

And it's "bored".
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#79 - 2013-09-24 12:56:28 UTC
So how come every thread in this subforum turns into "KILL is so awesome, why doesn't anybody fight us? WE RULE and everyone else is WRONG"
It's like Goons in W-Space now. Lol

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2013-09-24 13:04:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Hidden Fremen wrote:

Why do they let you post? Some perspective http://killalliance.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13278. 12 to 42. If this isn't hypocrisy... I, too, would be bored by those odds. I'd probably even feel bad. Instead of thanking us for giving you free kills, you're trying too hard to shame us. We've been saying we're bad, silly. Just wish you'd admit you were, too.

Hey, Lead Farmers? Remember that one drunken night we fought Polarized., out-DPSed and out-logied, when they ran when Blue popped their Falcon? What were their last words before they jumped and GTFO? "Sorry, we only blob." Lol.

And it's "bored".


Yeah, sure blame it on the alcohol Smile I'm not trying to shame you, you do that all by yourself.

You where outnumbered, which is what thread seems to be about, is it not? I don't know why you guys seem to find it so hard not to turn everything into a pissing contest.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...