Ships & Modules

Hardpoints without bonuses would be behond pointless.

And who said a race was specialized in only one weapon type? By your logic, since gallentes are the drones specialists, then hybrids wouldn't belong to anyone.

Whoa ... the new ships aren't naked any more??

Request: Post several pics of each of the new ships at different angles so we can see them in all their textured glory.

My SSD doesn't have enough room for the Singularity client, otherwise I'd take a look myself.

THIS!

Additionally, many of the missile ships can tote some rails along if they want (hey, it works for the guristas... oh... wait...). So, while there is a strong leaning towards missiles they are by no means the end-all-be-all of caldari weapons systems.

Now, BLASTERS can GTFO- that's where the split should be, really. If a caldari ship is getting in someone's face it should be a one-way trip to deliver torpedo-based death (or, if it's a frigate, rocket-based death. Cruisers need not apply), not to fire off blasters. Even that is, to me, questionable (and I love me some torpedo explosions, but really "in your face" just isn't very Caldari- I'd prefer even the frigate level to be more firmly rails/lights than blasters/rockets). So, not terribly surprised to see the siege launchers go.

I *do* think the hardpoints should stay, both for fail-fit giggles (maybe you want a REALLY BIG platform for your AMLs) and to retain the possibility of cruise launchers (really, if there's *such* a worry about people running missions in cruise-nagas set a role bonus that basically breaks cruise missiles against anything smaller than another BC without penalizing them against BS+ (big hit to explo radius but a boost to velocity? or something that actually works with the missile-math).

Damage bonus to rails is an interesting thought, though it makes me wonder where this leaves the Rokh (since both ships have similarly rediculous range, is the BC *really* able to *out*-damage the BS, and if so has CCP indicated if that's where they want things or??? Don't have access to/time to crunch the actual numbers atm...)?

We actually have enough missle boats, thank you. We don't need another, especially one with a split weapons system with no bonus to missiles. That's what the Rokh is for (and yes I'm aware it's a battleship).

We don't actually have any good hybrid turret battlecruisers yet (the Ferox is not a ship).

If you want a good Hybrid ship and you already have the skills for the turrets, just train the measly skills needed to fly a gal BC..

changing a ship type is far FAR less taxing than training a whole new weapon type and all it's specializations

Wrong. Gallente are drone race. Hybrids are their secondary weapon system. You're very glad I caught that one before you looked stupid.

are you joking? drones are a variety, utility item. a FEW ships specialize in them, far more Gal ships are suited for Hybrids

Yea training large projectile turrets next .. too bad for the torpedoes.
Another niche ship, just what we needed ..

Thanks CCP for rendering a promising ship useless for me for no good reason.

Simply because Gal ships can carry drones more often and larger ones does not mean they are primarily drone based. Unless given a specific bonus drones are a small part of the damage for hybrid ships even with heavies compared to Hybrid's output and otherwise they are used as a utility device, ecm, web, anti-frig with damage type variety.. and if you're really going to argue that the main point of Gal carriers is the fighter damage, that's simply rediculous.

This is getting derailed though, this is not a what do Gal use as a primary weapon, It's that every weapon type now has a Over-sized weapon platform except the Missiles. fly a torp raven? yeah sure, except the whole point of these things is to be fast, small and fragile with a TON of damage, neither do they have a single 8x launcher ship.. or hell even launcher models on their ships. Missiles are harder to use in a lot of situations, and considering how fragile these ships are they will be significantly more effective in a fleet with web's, scrams, painters, plenty of utility mod's to enable the torp's / cruise / whatever missile to hit.