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1.1 Haulers and Ice products

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Alan Bell
URSA PRIMUS
URSA.
#1 - 2013-09-19 13:17:46 UTC
Are any of the haulers with a new dedicated bay able to hold ice products? Such as isotopes, liquid ozone, heavy water, etc.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-09-19 14:29:45 UTC
Any bay except an ore hold, or one dedicated to PI or other such things.

But dedicated for Ice products specifically ? No. Same reason as there is no "Mineral Hold".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Jaques Perinard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-09-19 14:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Perinard
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Any bay except an ore hold, or one dedicated to PI or other such things.

But dedicated for Ice products specifically ? No. Same reason as there is no "Mineral Hold".


Look again at the Kyros for your mineral hold.

As far as ice products, word on the street is that they may be doing something with ice Soon (tm), so they intentionally left out refined ice in the industrial rebalance.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2013-09-19 15:12:29 UTC
Jaques Perinard wrote:

Look again at the Kyros for your mineral hold.



Yeah. It's just crazy trying to keep up with all the changes. Especially when they are not even reflected in the Evelopedia for convenience.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-09-19 16:19:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaxix
From Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-and-renaming-industrials/

Quote:
"Iteron Mk. IV" to "Miasmos"

This one carries ore, which means ice, minerals and gas. We've pretty much covered the first two with the Kryos name, so we decided to have some fun with gas. A "miasma" is a gaseous contagion - actually one of the first on record, from Greek mythology; and as we tend to sometimes mythologize Gallente ship names, it was a good fit. Another candidate was "Atreus", the dude who actually caused the plague by doing some horrible things (seriously, look him up), but it's far too similar to the Atron; so "Miasmos" it is.


Doesn't appear to be for ice products, but raw ice, yes. Might be worth a quick experiment to confirm.

Bokononist

 

Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2013-09-19 16:30:38 UTC
yeah, they could have worded that a bit differently. The Miasmos has a "standard" Ore Hold (same as on the Orca/Rorqual) and is/will be cabable of carrying unrefined ore/ice (and apparently gas).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Chic Botany
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-09-20 15:11:35 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
From Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-and-renaming-industrials/

Quote:
"Iteron Mk. IV" to "Miasmos"

This one carries ore, which means ice, minerals and gas. We've pretty much covered the first two with the Kryos name, so we decided to have some fun with gas. A "miasma" is a gaseous contagion - actually one of the first on record, from Greek mythology; and as we tend to sometimes mythologize Gallente ship names, it was a good fit. Another candidate was "Atreus", the dude who actually caused the plague by doing some horrible things (seriously, look him up), but it's far too similar to the Atron; so "Miasmos" it is.


Doesn't appear to be for ice products, but raw ice, yes. Might be worth a quick experiment to confirm.


I've just tried a Miasmos Ore bay with some heavy water and it said no, nor does it carry minerals.
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-20 20:28:51 UTC
Chic Botany wrote:
Zaxix wrote:
From Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-and-renaming-industrials/

Quote:
"Iteron Mk. IV" to "Miasmos"

This one carries ore, which means ice, minerals and gas. We've pretty much covered the first two with the Kryos name, so we decided to have some fun with gas. A "miasma" is a gaseous contagion - actually one of the first on record, from Greek mythology; and as we tend to sometimes mythologize Gallente ship names, it was a good fit. Another candidate was "Atreus", the dude who actually caused the plague by doing some horrible things (seriously, look him up), but it's far too similar to the Atron; so "Miasmos" it is.


Doesn't appear to be for ice products, but raw ice, yes. Might be worth a quick experiment to confirm.


I've just tried a Miasmos Ore bay with some heavy water and it said no, nor does it carry minerals.

You're a good soul. Thanks for the info!

Bokononist

 

Ginger Barbarella
#9 - 2013-09-20 21:00:20 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Any bay except an ore hold, or one dedicated to PI or other such things.

But dedicated for Ice products specifically ? No. Same reason as there is no "Mineral Hold".


I'm still waiting for the hauler dedicated to hauling around salvage scrap... just cuz.

Oooh, or one dedicated to hauling around T1 Veldspar mining crystals. THAT is a must in this game!!

And then there's the one dedicated to hauling around all those Marines, loose womenses, and bits of DNA that are so prevalent in high sec. Dedicated DNA hauler, that's what we need in this game!

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-09-23 03:45:26 UTC
Jaques Perinard wrote:


As far as ice products, word on the street is that they may be doing something with ice Soon (tm), so they intentionally left out refined ice in the industrial rebalance.


Source(s) for that tidbit ?


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El 1974
Green Visstick High
#11 - 2013-09-23 07:05:31 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Jaques Perinard wrote:


As far as ice products, word on the street is that they may be doing something with ice Soon (tm), so they intentionally left out refined ice in the industrial rebalance.


Source(s) for that tidbit ?

CCP Rise wrote:
We talked about doing a POS fueler (and I expect this to be the most legit complaint) but it just isn't possible atm. I can't go into specifics but please trust me here =/

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3263859#post3263859
Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2013-09-23 10:49:46 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Any bay except an ore hold, or one dedicated to PI or other such things.

But dedicated for Ice products specifically ? No. Same reason as there is no "Mineral Hold".


The Kyros says hi. Blink

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#13 - 2013-09-23 19:44:58 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:

I'm still waiting for the hauler dedicated to hauling around salvage scrap... just cuz.


How much space do you need? lol

Ginger Barbarella wrote:

Oooh, or one dedicated to hauling around T1 Veldspar mining crystals. THAT is a must in this game!!


Can't you use the one for ammo [charges] with this? I don't remember the name and my work blocks almost everything but EVEGate

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#14 - 2013-09-23 20:03:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Chic Botany wrote:
Zaxix wrote:
From Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-and-renaming-industrials/

Quote:
"Iteron Mk. IV" to "Miasmos"

This one carries ore, which means ice, minerals and gas. We've pretty much covered the first two with the Kryos name, so we decided to have some fun with gas. A "miasma" is a gaseous contagion - actually one of the first on record, from Greek mythology; and as we tend to sometimes mythologize Gallente ship names, it was a good fit. Another candidate was "Atreus", the dude who actually caused the plague by doing some horrible things (seriously, look him up), but it's far too similar to the Atron; so "Miasmos" it is.


Doesn't appear to be for ice products, but raw ice, yes. Might be worth a quick experiment to confirm.


I've just tried a Miasmos Ore bay with some heavy water and it said no, nor does it carry minerals.

The Miasmos can carry raw ORE, Raw ICE (not refined ICE products) and raw GAS.

The Kyros can carry minerals from refining ORE, In my opinion it should also be able to carry refined ICE and GAS products to stay consistent with the Miasmos.

The hoarder can carry AMMO, which in my opinion should also include fuel blocks.

That would cover every thing, except maybe moon materials.

Perhaps we need another industrial that CAN carry ICE products and fuel blocks.

And maybe one for moon materials, like the one we got for PI materials.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-09-23 20:35:06 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Chic Botany wrote:
Zaxix wrote:
From Dev Blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/rebalancing-and-renaming-industrials/

Quote:
"Iteron Mk. IV" to "Miasmos"

This one carries ore, which means ice, minerals and gas. We've pretty much covered the first two with the Kryos name, so we decided to have some fun with gas. A "miasma" is a gaseous contagion - actually one of the first on record, from Greek mythology; and as we tend to sometimes mythologize Gallente ship names, it was a good fit. Another candidate was "Atreus", the dude who actually caused the plague by doing some horrible things (seriously, look him up), but it's far too similar to the Atron; so "Miasmos" it is.


Doesn't appear to be for ice products, but raw ice, yes. Might be worth a quick experiment to confirm.


I've just tried a Miasmos Ore bay with some heavy water and it said no, nor does it carry minerals.

The Miasmos can carry raw ORE, Raw ICE (not refined ICE products) and raw GAS.

The Kyros can carry minerals from refining ORE, In my opinion it should also be able to carry refined ICE and GAS products to stay consistent with the Miasmos.

The hoarder can carry AMMO, which in my opinion should also include fuel blocks.

That would cover every thing, except maybe moon materials.

Perhaps we need another industrial that CAN carry ICE products and fuel blocks.

And maybe one for moon materials, like the one we got for PI materials.



Congratulations CCP.

You've made things so much simpler for players with this nonsense. Roll

Cargo Holds should just be for Cargo. Period.

I don't know of any real life containers that are picky about what they can store. Really I don't.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#16 - 2013-09-23 20:52:38 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Cargo Holds should just be for Cargo. Period.

I don't know of any real life containers that are picky about what they can store. Really I don't.

Really? Nuclear waste, liquid natural gas, refrigerated, con-ex, etc
Just saying.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-09-23 20:59:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Vexed Nova wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Cargo Holds should just be for Cargo. Period.

I don't know of any real life containers that are picky about what they can store. Really I don't.

Really? Nuclear waste, liquid natural gas, refrigerated, con-ex, etc
Just saying.



Anything that can store nuclear waste can probably handle anything, period. The refrigerated container probably doesn't care what goes in it.

Taking things too far in this direction, which I feel CCP has already done, would mean that yes, I do need a special protective hold for my Enriched Uranium specifically.

You can see where that is going.........

ed: A special environmental comfort hold for Prisoners and Militants found in Missions anyone ? Hey, let's 'keep it real' because "EVE is Real". Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-09-24 04:02:19 UTC
Well, this is what the winter expansion will be.... a fleet of "new" ships being dedicated hauler for each and every specific commodity... Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-09-24 10:02:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Termy Rockling
Like in real life (tm) i like to have these different haulers with their "free" low/rigslots.
The ammohauler is bit too much though rest are fine.
Bugsy had great extra ideas for the missing types though. Attention
brinelan
#20 - 2013-09-24 13:50:08 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jaques Perinard wrote:

Look again at the Kyros for your mineral hold.



Yeah. It's just crazy trying to keep up with all the changes. Especially when they are not even reflected in the Evelopedia for convenience.


You know, anyone can edit a wiki right?
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