Ships & Modules

CCP doesn't set prices.


Because their effectiveness was normalized to the top tier?

Regardless, BSes are in a better place than they have been in in years. And yes, that includes BSes in solo/small gang PvP.



Okay, okay okay. Let's slow down here.

First, CCP doesn't make significantly more money from PLEX than they do from regular subscriptions. The difference is the difference between the cost of a regular month's subscription and the cost of a PLEX - it's not a direct money injection for CCP.

Second, PLEX doesn't generate ISK. Players generate ISK the way they always have, and happen to use PLEX as a medium.

Third, the ISK isn't running out. The symptom you see, the one that the ISK value of ships increasing, is one of the opposite situations - there is more ISK going around.



There's no conspiracy. It just so happens that the mineral cost of BSes is high, relegating them to PvE, fleets, and bold solo/small gang PvPers - as it should be. The ship average ship in space being around cruiser size is not an indicator of the ISK running out, it's an indicator of us finally using the full spectrum of ship sizes available in the game.

I agree, but you should stop whining about it.

If players could actually insure faction, T2 and T3 ships - you'd see a lot more variety.

PvP;

Scout enemy. Decide what ships will overpower them. Get in said ships. Proceed to ROFLSTOMP kittens in a bag.

Do not engage otherwise. Use BS's where appropriate. Most non fail PvPers dont hop in a BS and go looking for PvP at any cost.

And a quick search of zkillboards shows me that BS PvP is far from dead.

I would just like to add that players also affect the ship price, domi wasnt that expensive cause it wasn't bought that often. Domi price went up after latest big patch in which domi was rebalanced to be a pure drone boat.

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Not to mention that with that re balance it become a very good if not an op ship which we who saw the alliance tournament proved it was indeed a very very powerful ship and people flocked to it... Textbook supply and demand price change...

Higher prices is good if you look at it from another perspective.
If BSs and BC's become too expensive to buy players will stop buying them and rather build them themselves, thus cheaper for them but certainly not for those selling huge amounts of it or market players.

On top another side effect is players playing with cheaper and cheaper ships, this is good. cheaper ships are also easy to build and require less materials so you can perfectly build them yourself for cheap still sell a couple, have fun pvp with and still making iskies.

It's all good, no problem.

Ships were cheaper when bots were plentiful, its all based on mineral prices. My first drake cost me 25mil.
I vote we bring back the botters.. either way I am still eve broke most of the time

Yea the mineral changes of the dominix which almost doubled it's build cost didn't influence it's price at all.

A side question to the money brokers and pixel economists. The claim was made that isk is not destroyed. However, I can think of a couple of ways that isk can be effectively destroyed in game terms.

1) When an account is un subscribed the assets of said account effectively are dropped out of the economy.

2) As isk is hoarded away in indefinitely larger and larger numbers via a Scrouge McDuck sized wallet.

How do you folks feel this contributes to the question of market pricing? Or is it a total red herring?

Quite sure buffed into oblivion is a contradiction