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Need advice on Nullsec Plexing fit (Angels)

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Oh Dae Su
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-09-23 04:15:08 UTC
I'm **** at making my own fits :P I'm moving to NullSec. Have never done this stuff before (plexing etc.), so I need a reliable ship.


I can fly either armor or shield.

Caldari Navy Raven - T2 Cruise Missiles (level 3 supporting skills, meh)

Gallente Battleships - Meta 4 hybrids, T2 Drones, T1 Sentries.

Minmatar Battleships (or Faction Minnie BS) - T2 Autocannons and Artillery - lvl 4-5 Supp skills



I don't wanna take my Incursion Machariel, because it's my last lifeline incase things go ****-up. I can't really afford any faction mods right now either.

What's my best option? What should I fit?


Thanks -

The man with no tongue
That Seems Legit
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-23 04:56:58 UTC
With your skills against angels I'd go with an arty maelstrom. Its the safer choice since you're new to null pve. Stick to anoms until you get the hang of things down there. They're a pretty forgiving ship for fittings, lots of different options. Download eft and try things out for yourself. meta 4 1400mm are fine, t2 1200mm are easy to fit not as good range. T2 1400s fit now, but need a shoehorn. Autocannon maels are also a thing, short range and slow though.

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Oh Dae Su
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-09-23 05:19:43 UTC
That Seems Legit wrote:
With your skills against angels I'd go with an arty maelstrom. Its the safer choice since you're new to null pve. Stick to anoms until you get the hang of things down there. They're a pretty forgiving ship for fittings, lots of different options. Download eft and try things out for yourself. meta 4 1400mm are fine, t2 1200mm are easy to fit not as good range. T2 1400s fit now, but need a shoehorn. Autocannon maels are also a thing, short range and slow though.



Thanks for the advice. I have many questions >.<
Would I still be able to do Plexes in an Arty Mael?
Will I be able to make a decent 100m~ an hour with it it?
What modules am I looking to fit? Active tank?
BOHC Lotteries
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-09-23 07:08:34 UTC
Ideally active tanked mael with 800 acs do forsaken hubs. warp in at 0 start killing rats move towards the frist wreck. All rats should spawn in the magic20km range from the first wreck.


Kill ****.

It can make 100m an hour. Actually a ton of **** can do that as well.
Ned Plantagenet
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-09-23 12:01:37 UTC
If you got nice drone skills a passive tank or active tank rattlesnake is nice as well warp in at 50 or 70km and drop sentries. For angles use kinetic or explosive damage for max DPS. Forsaken hubs are nice. And I think forlorn hubs are a bit easier but not as much isk. As of plexes ask a corp mate to help you out. RR domi's are great with that. Good luck though
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-09-23 12:35:09 UTC
I'd use a ravenkind over a Mael these days. Since the cruise missile buff, CML ravens do a lot of DPS, and range independent, pure damage-type DPS at that. And they don't need to burn cap motoring about to get close to the rats to do their EFT DPS either; they can put on an MJD and hop around the anomaly to keep their distance from the rats without even breaking lock.

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Oh Dae Su
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-09-23 14:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Oh Dae Su
I had a go at putting together some fits...

The numbers are with my skills.

522 Defense, Gun 856 DPS, 995 w/ Hammerheads

[Maelstrom, PLEX]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L

Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x10


417 Defense, 637 Missile DPS, 787 DPS w/ Hammerheads

[Raven, Raven lvl 4 - MK I]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Explosive Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


383 Defense, 722 DPS Missiles, 872 DPS w/ Hammerheads

[Raven Navy Issue, PLEX]
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

Explosive Deflection Field II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Explosive Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x9
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#8 - 2013-09-23 17:25:01 UTC
CNR/Raven doing random anoms/plexes > Mael doing random anoms/plexes, I'd say.

The AC Mael might be better at 0-farming Forsaken Hubs, though.
Freya Shimane
Malevelon Roe Industries
#9 - 2013-09-23 18:16:20 UTC
I much prefer the AC Maelstrom over a vanilla Raven for Angel Forsaken Hubs. It just *feels* like I'm doing more damage because the damage is applied instantly, and the guns cycle faster. Load Fusion and go to town. It also has a very forgiving tank.

A sentry Dominix will not do you wrong either. With a mjd fit, you will easily stay out of range of the rats, and blast away.