Sell Orders

Well, I was not present when Drama was scammed. Nor, to my knowledge, was he in system when I was scammed. To that point, I cannot speak to the specifics of his dealings with jita isk-doublers, other than to affirm that Alice Saki indeed runs a scam service.

It seems counter-intuitive to believe that I alone was scammed by an otherwise reputable dealer who by mere happenstance is beset on all sides by others claiming to be scammed as well. Logic and my own personal experience dictate that their claims tend to truth rather than falsity.

Aside from the myriad others claiming to have been scammed, what exactly would I gain by making such a false claim? My small indy alliance builds ships for resale. If anything, were I a cut-throat businessman, I should wish Alice well in her scamming endeavors -- it would eliminate some of the competition for market-share and make it easier for me to sell my wares.

But I think trying to get ahead in the game by these means violates my core principles, and so instead of keeping quiet about the scam or better yet, endorsing Alice's scam service and helping to lead others into the trap, I am attempting to inform my fellow ship sellers and potential purchasers that Alice's services are unreliable and should not be used.

People can believe what they wish. They should feel free to disregard my warnings about dealing with Alice at the peril of their own wallets.

This thread has been cleaned again, and this post is for clarification.

Read my last post in this thread here :



It appears, judging by some of the posts made in this thread, that some of you have misunderstood this:

There were reports relating to this thread that members of ISD may be removing evidence of scams and may have been involved in a scam. This was investigated thoroughly, and was found to be nothing but a rumor. Members of ISD were removing killmails and chatlogs from this thread, which it is against the forum rules to post, specifically Rules #33 and #34.

Nowhere in the post above does it claim that CCP or ISD endorse this service. We do not. You use it at your own risk. If you do feel it is a scam, then present evidence in a manner that does not breach the forum rules, if you don't feel that it's a scam, happy buying and selling.

Regardless of your intention in this thread, to both sides of the argument I'll say one last time, keep it civil, within the rules, and cut the bad language and personal attacks, otherwise people will start to lose their forum posting privileges.

Thanks.

Pretty sure that's not true... but if it was I guess we have different definitions of "shame".

Please remember that this is the Sell Orders forum section. Alice is providing a service to the community that is required(there are problems when things don't get done) There are other means of communication if you wish to make claims about a person other than just 'bad posting' all over this thread.

I have used Alice to sell and buy Supers in the past and I find that she/he is very efficient and its a useful service to the community that someone can actually be online regularly when required(It sure beats waiting around for a night for someone that might not log in).

Cheers

♥

Removed some trolling from this thread.

If you have legitimate concerns about a forum scam, please file a support ticket with relevant evidence.

+1, polite and well spoken and generally a pleasure. Was able to help set up a pos to trade in my home system too.

Sadly, Super toons seem to sell as much as supers themselves so.... yeah it's expected that quite a few have been sold.

Tossing 'Scam' around because of circumstantial buying and selling of characters is a bit..... presumptive.

I see a bunch of +1's, a few people claiming to have been treated unfairly, and some people crying foul because some of these toons were sold/purchased.

Which as I said earlier, appears to happen just as much as the selling of the ships themselves.


Circumstantial 'evidence', as you call it.


If you're going to insist foul play, please provide more than just 'bad posting' as Saskia called it.

Whatever you feel you need to do.

I can confirm not all of SS is interested in the trading of Supers, super characters, or any business associated with Supers except for the killing of Supers.



I Will, however, take your 'ruining Suddenly's Name' statement and thank you for complimenting our success.

Thank you kindly, have a good day!

Today, 22/09/2013, my EVE character Babylon Wolf tried to buy Erebus from F Stenz in Taff solar system and use Alice Saki as 3d party! After negotiation I transferred 95 billion to Alice Saki
And … they log off!
I open ticket and attach logs and screenshot of transaction to Alice Saki.
Don’t use this service!
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