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Ability to Manipulate Eve Wallet Api Reader?

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Siekman Beldrulf
Gingerbread Spacemen
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#1 - 2013-09-22 04:54:13 UTC
Alright, I'll let the secret out: I think I fell for an isk doubling scam. However, can someone explain why on the Api key tracker the isk doubler's profile gave, it claims that the money was received AND she sent money back to me .

Why would the tracker claim she sent money back if she did not? Is it possible to manipulate the tracker to claim money was sent when it was not? If I was scammed, so be it. I guess I am just confused and I don't want it to ever happen again :p.

It certainly seemed to good to be true, but to a new player the chance to make easy isk is far too lucrative :p.

Sincerely,

Siekman
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-22 05:51:46 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
The page is fake, of course. It's not even automatically updated - they just manually parse whatever comes in on the rare occasion someone actually sends them isk and add it themselves, then create a fake entry for the return.

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Siekman Beldrulf
Gingerbread Spacemen
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#3 - 2013-09-22 07:04:33 UTC
Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it.
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#4 - 2013-09-22 09:01:55 UTC
Pro tip: if they were serious, they wouldn't offer some random web site which - like mynna explained, can be easily manipulated to their liking. They would hand out their API key so that everyone could verify for themself if it is a legit offer. Ofc that will never happen ...

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5 - 2013-09-22 11:55:27 UTC
Siekman Beldrulf wrote:
Alright, I'll let the secret out: I think I fell for an isk doubling scam. However, can someone explain why on the Api key tracker the isk doubler's profile gave, it claims that the money was received AND she sent money back to me .

Why would the tracker claim she sent money back if she did not? Is it possible to manipulate the tracker to claim money was sent when it was not? If I was scammed, so be it. I guess I am just confused and I don't want it to ever happen again :p.

It certainly seemed to good to be true, but to a new player the chance to make easy isk is far too lucrative :p.

Sincerely,

Siekman
As the above have said. Just wanted to add:
You realise the reason scammers still scam is because of people like you falling for it right?
Stop believing it when you find a deal that seems to good to be true.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2013-09-23 08:05:42 UTC
If it looks too good to be true - it's a trick.
If it looks too good to be true and you don't think it is a trick, that just means you do not understand the trick.

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-09-23 14:12:13 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
If it looks too good to be true - it's a trick.
If it looks too good to be true and you don't think it is a trick, that just means you do not understand the trick.

Very true. I returned to EVE a couple of months ago and had a hard time figuring out some of the scams. I KNEW they were scams yet I failed to see how they worked untill looking at them very closely and reading up a bit.

The most embarrasing part was where I was looking at a contract scam and I didn't notice the ISK ammount was missing three zero's for as long as 2 or 3 minutes.

That's like one of the oldest tricks in the game yet my brain had a hard time remembering it.

Once you know how it works the scams seem so simple you wonder how anyone could ever fall for it. Don't worry though, lot's of ppl do, it's like falling for magic tricks. You KNOW it's a trick but your eyes SEE that the cup with the ball should be in the middle now so you pick that one and are left feeling stupid as the middle cup get's lifted and is, of course, empty.

Siekman Beldrulf
Gingerbread Spacemen
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#8 - 2013-09-24 00:29:15 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Siekman Beldrulf wrote:
Alright, I'll let the secret out: I think I fell for an isk doubling scam. However, can someone explain why on the Api key tracker the isk doubler's profile gave, it claims that the money was received AND she sent money back to me .

Why would the tracker claim she sent money back if she did not? Is it possible to manipulate the tracker to claim money was sent when it was not? If I was scammed, so be it. I guess I am just confused and I don't want it to ever happen again :p.

It certainly seemed to good to be true, but to a new player the chance to make easy isk is far too lucrative :p.

Sincerely,

Siekman
As the above have said. Just wanted to add:
You realise the reason scammers still scam is because of people like you falling for it right?
Stop believing it when you find a deal that seems to good to be true.


Right, I understand that now and won't be falling for it again. Thanks anyways :)
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#9 - 2013-09-28 11:46:51 UTC
mynnna wrote:
The page is fake, of course. It's not even automatically updated - they just manually parse whatever comes in on the rare occasion someone actually sends them isk and add it themselves, then create a fake entry for the return.


Pretty much this, the API just provides data from the eve server to a 3. party application(like the linked website) it is very easy to trace your money sent, display this and add another entry that suggests you did get a bigger amount in return while it never happens in game, since the 3. party website is completely controlled by the person that offers the "ISK doubling" and he can show there anything he likes, with zero relationship of actual in game ISK movement.

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Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#10 - 2013-09-28 17:34:40 UTC
The website was a fake robot.

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