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Still want name changes and the freeing up of old names!

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Sir Prize Riches
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#1 - 2013-09-21 03:36:50 UTC
A name change history combined with employment history should solve any problems. So many good names are taken by people who will never play again and at 10 years long in a single-server game, coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#2 - 2013-09-21 09:26:34 UTC
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.

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Commander IceQ
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-09-21 10:40:47 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.

True... but there are only so many books, but I don't think that is what the OP had in mind.

If one Player created a char "Duke Leto Atreides" in 2003 and only did a trail account and hasn't played since. The char name is still not available 10 years later...

I would suggest that if someone did a 14/21 day trail and have not subbed within 6 months the account should expire and all chars should be bio massed. If a subbed account lies dormant for a time (I would say 1.5 years) then all chars are renamed to something like "Race" "Citizen" "Dob" "3 digit randomized number" (example: CaldariCitizen20030101001") that should make quite a few names available.

Also what would be nice is the ability to change your character names. I admit that the "Commander" is not the most original name out there... so I would love to change that... I don't think that changing the name is pragmatically difficult (it SHOULD be only 1 field in 1 table in the database). Adding the audit trail (as the OP suggested) might be a bit more work, but please allow us to change the names.

I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#4 - 2013-09-22 10:20:52 UTC
Commander IceQ wrote:
Sable Moran wrote:
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.

True... but there are only so many books, but I don't think that is what the OP had in mind.

If one Player created a char "Duke Leto Atreides" in 2003 and only did a trail account and hasn't played since. The char name is still not available 10 years later...


I think you misunderstood me. I did not mean that reading a bunch of books would give you a list of names that some author made up for his/her story. I meant that it would give one a large vocabulary and the skill to use that vocabulary to his/her advantage in various situation, for example while naming a character in a game of serious business of space ships.

Commander IceQ wrote:
I would suggest that if someone did a 14/21 day trail and have not subbed within 6 months the account should expire and all chars should be bio massed. If a subbed account lies dormant for a time (I would say 1.5 years) then all chars are renamed to something like "Race" "Citizen" "Dob" "3 digit randomized number" (example: CaldariCitizen20030101001") that should make quite a few names available.


Even if it was a short trial account affair it is possible that that character left a lasting impression on some part of eve. Reusing that name later for some other character would be awkward to say the least.

Commander IceQ wrote:
Also what would be nice is the ability to change your character names. I admit that the "Commander" is not the most original name out there... so I would love to change that... I don't think that changing the name is pragmatically difficult (it SHOULD be only 1 field in 1 table in the database). Adding the audit trail (as the OP suggested) might be a bit more work, but please allow us to change the names.


This topic has been gone over many many times here so I won't bother going further into it, but just for the record I want to say that I very very much oppose this.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#5 - 2013-09-22 10:44:55 UTC
Stop making these threads to make it happen, it won't happen because CCP would risk hurting players that would come back to eve after a long time.

Also I pity your imagination.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.

Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#6 - 2013-09-22 10:49:11 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.


how quaint. you're defending people who don't even play the game.
pathetic. can you provide a real reason not to delete characters that haven't logged in after 5 years let alone 10?
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#7 - 2013-09-22 10:59:15 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Sable Moran wrote:
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.


how quaint. you're defending people who don't even play the game.
pathetic. can you provide a real reason not to delete characters that haven't logged in after 5 years let alone 10?


You've played eve for four years and you still don't understand it, how quaint.

History is reason enough.

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#8 - 2013-09-22 11:47:34 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Sable Moran wrote:
Sir Prize Riches wrote:
coming up with a good name is becoming unreasonably difficult.


Lack of imagination, easily fixed by ye olde art of reading books.


how quaint. you're defending people who don't even play the game.
pathetic. can you provide a real reason not to delete characters that haven't logged in after 5 years let alone 10?


You've played eve for four years and you still don't understand it, how quaint.

History is reason enough.



no no no cob. no straw man argument here please. provide an example or be quiet
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-09-22 12:00:57 UTC
I have come up with several unique names for my characters without and special symbols or numbers in the names. All a unique name requires is a little imagination and grammar manipulation.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#10 - 2013-09-22 12:11:27 UTC
And that still ignores the problem of players/corporation that are inactive and in some cases have been inactive for longer than they were subscribed. At the very least if CCP have legal issues with deleting characters then at least they can free up their corporations which surely could be wrangled under eula/tos. Inactive players aren't paying for the right to have a say in what happens to their corporation.

If I unsub and my POS gets bashed and everything looted then the forums would tell me to htfu but god forbid I unsub and never return apparently I have more privileges than currently active players
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-22 12:28:18 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
If I unsub and my POS gets bashed and everything looted then the forums would tell me to htfu
Correct, it is your fault for not securing your stuff before going inactive.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:

but god forbid I unsub and never return apparently I have more privileges than currently active players

And yet if 3~4 years later if you hear about this really neat feature that they developed and decide to sub for one month to try it out only to come to your character selection screen and be faced with "CaldariCitizen1346876325" you would be pissed, probablly to the point you would unsub again and not return even if there was another cool feature that cough tyour intrest.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#12 - 2013-09-22 12:42:26 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
I have come up with several unique names for my characters without and special symbols or numbers in the names. All a unique name requires is a little imagination and grammar manipulation.


First name was from EVE: The Burning Life
Last was randomized

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#13 - 2013-09-22 12:56:20 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
If I unsub and my POS gets bashed and everything looted then the forums would tell me to htfu
Correct, it is your fault for not securing your stuff before going inactive.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:

but god forbid I unsub and never return apparently I have more privileges than currently active players

And yet if 3~4 years later if you hear about this really neat feature that they developed and decide to sub for one month to try it out only to come to your character selection screen and be faced with "CaldariCitizen1346876325" you would be pissed, probablly to the point you would unsub again and not return even if there was another cool feature that cough tyour intrest.


Your interpretation relies on a couple of salient points being assumed as fact first.
1) that your character name has definitely been taken by someone else
2) that coming up with a new unique name for your toon being too hard (bearing in mind the literally hundreds of thousands of other accounts that have had the same thing happen here)

I personally am not that fussed about names but corporations should be going to the chopping blocks if they have no active members. There is noone to keep the corp registered. All of which takes me back to a much earlier idea I had once about forcing corporate office and scaling a regular registration tax. Cue the good things this game needs. it is an isk sink that scales with corp size forcing them to remain active or else have their corp penalised or out right anulled.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#14 - 2013-09-22 13:05:57 UTC
See a lot of *hey, I just resubbed after 4 years...* or *he, just came back, I didn't play since '06...*
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#15 - 2013-09-22 13:15:42 UTC
purely anecdotal. Compared to probably 1 - 2 million unsubbed accounts. After 10 years I wouldn't be surprised if the number was higher.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#16 - 2013-09-22 13:56:13 UTC
A purge of trial period only names - ok, I can support that.

Deleting names of unsubbed characters that were paying players - no... They might come back.

Name changes - Hell No... Not ever.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#17 - 2013-09-22 20:44:53 UTC
Guys, guys! All the good ridiculous names are taken! I can't fit any more X's into the name field on either side! What do?
Dormez-vous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-10-06 20:55:40 UTC
bump id be satisfied with just a name change and history wipe for 2 plex
Zachev Trace
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-10-06 23:35:36 UTC
+1 for getting rid of old names as well as name changes.

Not that those characters should be removed from the game, just that they should be required to come up with a new name should they return to the game after all those years.

Notifications should be sent to the owner as well, stating their name has been flagged to be changed, and they have X amount of days to petition against it and or resub.

For example:

I've played many other MMO's in my career and never before have I come across someone with just Zachev as their name XD. Not that I don't mind having a last name though, But I definitely would have petitioned it should this have been available at the time, as the person probably started his character on a trial and never played again (over 3 years ago). This seems to be a rather annoying trend when coming up with new names only to find that the awesome one you just thought of and or use elsewhere is taken by someone who isn't even remotely interested in playing anymore.

While there may be billions of name combinations out there, there are only so many that a person would find acceptable for use, and even fewer that would like those names. I'd rather not see EVE become a game where the only character names available involve adding random numbers into them due to the massive amounts of people who tried the game and quit.
Darkwolf
#20 - 2013-10-06 23:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkwolf
Nope. Do not want. Well, I'd support wiping characters/names/assets of trial accounts say six months after the trial ended. But for full accounts? No way.

From personal experience, I unsubbed for two years a few years back, after having played this game since 2003. I would have been furious if I came back and my name had been changed (I've been using this handle for over twenty years), and I would have been furious if I came back and my character's assets had been wiped.

I can tell you right now, I would not have continued my sub and I would have demanded a refund (of the resub, not the whole time, lol). And the people that I encouraged to try EVE with me when Odyssey came out? I wouldn't have been recommending EVE to them either.

Just pick different names. You can use pretty long names in EVE, so pick a third word or something.
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