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Live fire training for the Tribal Liberation Force (and allies)

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#61 - 2013-09-11 14:02:57 UTC
Rune Ainur wrote:
He's being a smuglord about it, but I honestly can't figure out why. So far, their killboard is a yawn fest and has a lot of red.

My apologies for not satisfying your craving for bloodshed. How may this humble frigate-centric corporation please you? Perhaps taking down a titan? We'll work on that.

Or maybe you're expecting all of our fights to be risk-free by using uber-expensive ships backed up with logistics, ECM, and warfare links, perhaps while also several billion ISK of implants in our heads and who knows what performance-enhancing substances running through our veins? What would our charges learn from that? If the students can never pass a test, what is their incentive to improve?

Rune Ainur wrote:
No wonder they "left" the TLF.


Are you implying the departure was not due to our own choice to do so?

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Rioghal Morgan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-09-11 17:36:02 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:


Rioghal Morgan wrote:
You'd be better off just admitting you've gone pirate.

And pirates are motivated by... what? Greed? If that were the case, wouldn't we stay in the Minmatar militia and get paid preposterous amounts for very little and easy work?

If you're going to accuse us of something, at least choose something with more aplomb and that is not contradictory to what we have already said, like maybe calling us sociopaths or morally corrupt crazy people.


Never accused you of greed. There's more than a few pirates out here who's only motivation is sheer blood-lust.

This whole 'training" people thing is a farce. Don't know why you persist in it.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#63 - 2013-09-11 18:43:04 UTC
Rioghal Morgan wrote:
There's more than a few pirates out here who's only motivation is sheer blood-lust.

I usually don't call those pirates, but I can't find a better word for it, so whatever.

Anyway, If I were motivated by bloodlust, I wouldn't be offering to help any of my victims. I would simply revel in the killing and in laughing in the local system's comm channel.

If I am motivated by bloodlust, as you claim, what do you think I'm gaining by holding an open conversation about my corp's activities in the Summit?

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Rioghal Morgan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-09-11 19:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rioghal Morgan
The thing is, you aren't 'helping" anyone, you're slaughtering baseliner crews who are doing nothing wrong in the name of teaching a lesson to a group of people who are damn near impossible to teach anything due to their thickheadedness.

As to why you're bothering with the pretense is beyond me. Perhaps so you have a reason for what you've done if you ever rejoin the militia and attempt to rebuild ties.

Half the population of the militias doesn't care what your previous allegiances or actions are as long as you're on their side so there's no need for this.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#65 - 2013-09-11 19:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
As I have just received a surprised message from an Electus Matari diplomat (Bronnwynn), I thought that a public announcement of the status of Rifterlings and Point Blank Alliance in the Amarr/Minmatar war zone would be appropriate, to clear any further confusion.


I just thought everyone should know, and to offer a venue for conversation and progress announcements. I even discussed a little bit of my philosophy! Whether you believe me or not, and how you act on that belief, is up to you.

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Rioghal Morgan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-09-11 20:25:09 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
As I have just received a surprised message from an Electus Matari diplomat (Bronnwynn), I thought that a public announcement of the status of Rifterlings and Point Blank Alliance in the Amarr/Minmatar war zone would be appropriate, to clear any further confusion.


I just thought everyone should know, and to offer a venue for conversation and progress announcements. I even discussed a little bit of my philosophy! Whether you believe me or not, and how you act on that belief, is up to you.

Fair enough.
Pinky Feldman
Perkone
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-09-12 20:23:11 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
He is talking about the poor chump in maintenance and that guy that cleans up..


It is why I mainly hire Amarrians, means I don't feel bad when my ship goes poof. Just make sure you don't let them know you are minmatar militia.. Don't worry to much once they are on board most want to live... Just happens I skimp on the escape pods, only officers get on those :P


Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#68 - 2013-09-13 05:38:06 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing.

An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual.


Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators.

Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign.

In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it.

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Pinky Feldman
Perkone
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-09-13 07:49:30 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing.

An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual.


Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators.

Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign.

In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it.


I find your claims a bit suspect considering WINMATAR. is a group that takes pride and often brags about their pacifist approach to warzone control. Surely a group so heavily dedicated to avoiding combat is only attempting to make a statement with their war declaration. So quick you are to turn a warning into more bloodshed.
Eran Mintor
Marathon Drinkers
#70 - 2013-09-13 08:59:39 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Surely this comment was made purely for the shock value. I would never dream of treating my crew that way, regardless of their cultural upbringing.

An interesting amount of compassion from someone who just a few months ago was chest-beating about the awesomeness of sacrificing thousands of innocents in a barbaric ritual.


Anyway, in other news, one of the organizations I mentioned is under special observation has just crossed a major line. WINMATAR. (an alliance led by the Biohazard. corp), who are to credit for the Minmatar warzone success of late, decided to turn against their brethren and allies by declaring war on a fellow militia corporation, Pixel Navigators.

Point Blank Alliance will not stand idly by for this shameless bullying of allies, and has offered its help by allying with Pixel Navigators against WINMATAR.. Hostilities are CONCORD-sanctioned starting about 20 hours. You can check our progress at educating WINMATAR. on our Galnet portal under the "Hazmat Cleanup" campaign.

In the past month-and-a-half, Point Blank Alliance has relieved WINMATAR. of 3.12 billion ISK of assets, while losing less than a quarter of that in the process. This is abysmally substandard. We have irons in the fire to boost that number a lot -- and hopefully, WINMATAR.'s proficiency with it.


I'm unconvinced that you do this to defend your former allies rather as a cover of coincidence. Seems to me you were already killing these Matari pilots so I don't see much difference here besides removing certain consequence of aggression by bribing CONCORD.

The irony and hypocrisy is quite astounding to me.

Please proceed though and contine your reporting. I'm finding this conflict to be increasingly interesting (ie. Amusing).

-Eran
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#71 - 2013-09-13 13:44:50 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
I find your claims a bit suspect considering WINMATAR. is a group that takes pride and often brags about their pacifist approach to warzone control. Surely a group so heavily dedicated to avoiding combat is only attempting to make a statement with their war declaration. So quick you are to turn a warning into more bloodshed.

I'm not sure where you got "pacifist" from. In my experience, WINMATAR. are belligerent and proud to a fault. If you would like to read about the events leading up to the war, feel free to.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#72 - 2013-09-13 14:16:43 UTC
Why are you people never around when WE show up?

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#73 - 2013-09-13 14:30:36 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Why are you people never around when WE show up?

When do you show up? Our activity primetime is 0100-0500 ET every day. We're still a rather small corp, and to encourage corp cohesion, we have not spread out throughout the rest of the day.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#74 - 2013-09-13 14:41:38 UTC
...Oh. Maybe that's why....dammit.

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Sai Weisman
Perkone
Caldari State
#75 - 2013-09-21 20:05:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Sai Weisman
As a novice fleet commander, I volunteered my fleets regularly for undergoing live fire training. After months of careful observation, we came to understand the advanced, high level tactics used by the experienced pilots of the Point Blank Alliance.

The Rifterlings have perfected a maneuver called "Flying Really Fast And Not Shooting A Lot," which is highly effective against pilots that do not fly really fast and expect to get shot often. It was initially very effective, because it was always a surprise when they did shoot. We suffered heavy losses. We have since adapted to the tactic by using ships and weapons capable of hitting things that fly really fast and using ships that perform well when not being shot at, which has led to a vast improvement in our performance in the "isk war" of the ongoing war which the Rifterlings have joined. Most of our current lead probably comes from finishing off that one random Heavy Assault Cruiser, but I digress.

We have also adopted the tactic of "Flying Really Fast And Not Shooting A Lot" ourselves. Tristans have proved invaluable in these operations, as they not only fly really fast and don't shoot a lot, they can also deploy many drones which fly even faster, allowing pilots to delegate the "not shooting a lot" portion of the strategy. Mediocre results have already been achieved, and I am losing Tristans as quickly as I can in the attempt to improve on specifics of the implementation of this brilliant new strategy.
Eran Mintor
Marathon Drinkers
#76 - 2013-09-22 06:23:32 UTC
The derp is strong in this one.

-Eran