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JITA OCCUPY - HYBRIDS CASE

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Planetmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-15 13:13:14 UTC
As we all know CCP is trying to make so called "hybrid re-balancing" so called because for now its cosmetic tweak. Maybe we should give the idea about what we are thinking about "so called re-balancing" via Jita protest ?

Gallente is still unplayable in most part of the game because hybrids -> both blasters and rails

Maybe the only way is the protest and yes CSM we don't need you... You are just a TOY

Should we ?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#2 - 2011-11-15 13:23:37 UTC
< Instert item > isnt powerful enoguh I want it to be most powerful becuase thats how you balance things.

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Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-11-15 13:30:51 UTC
WHO CARES !

Ive made this toon and going to jita :)
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-11-15 13:31:50 UTC
The guns themselves are already at LEAST on-par with the other guns after the changes.

The problem is that they aren't great for solo/very small gang work, particually on slow hulls.

Blasters are still the best weapon to take if you have a rapier in fleet or anything else with really good web range, its just since the web and nano nerf its become harder and harder to get blasters to the point where you can use them.

Gal ships where designed to be slow but using long-ranged points and webs to control the enemy's ability to escape, this can't happen anymore so the ships need to be looked at:

Either
1: Give them web bonuses in place of an existing bonus so webs are useful to fit
2: Give them speed bonuses

For example, the thorax/deimos:
Give a MWD speed bonus so its not far off a stabber/vaga's speed, suddenly its a nasty enemy!

For the Brutix:
Bit slower but more mids so give it 20% per level web range (20km web), leaves it still able to be kited from long range, but as soon as it gets any closer, it'll be coming for you fast with a lot of DPS.

Personally I'd rather see these boats switching to shield tanks, which would do the job on it's own (with slot changes ofc) but CCP seem to not want to take this route.

As a think outside the box idea:

How about a warhead that instead of doing damage, reduces speed per hit with a optimal + falloff bonus on it.
This would mean you can catch them up at the cost of sacrificing damage, at least till you can get in scram range.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-15 13:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
The OP said Cosmetic Changes.... which means look of the Turrets.

The -30% cap usage, -12% PW requirements, +20 Tracking he agrees with.

I agree with the OP... Hybrits need to look even sexier with those changes.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-15 13:54:09 UTC
Rhinanna wrote:
The guns themselves are already at LEAST on-par with the other guns after the changes.

The problem is that they aren't great for solo/very small gang work, particually on slow hulls.

Blasters are still the best weapon to take if you have a rapier in fleet or anything else with really good web range, its just since the web and nano nerf its become harder and harder to get blasters to the point where you can use them.

Gal ships where designed to be slow but using long-ranged points and webs to control the enemy's ability to escape, this can't happen anymore so the ships need to be looked at:



issue has been debated to death. also, if you have a rapier/huggin in the fleet, why not using an AC ship or a pulse ship? bit less damage for increased safety due to range, and you can still hit the ship well enough, if not better than blasters.

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Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-15 13:57:02 UTC
Well OCCUPY started who want may join who dont.. well...

Who cares
Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-11-15 14:07:52 UTC
There is two of US :) and its not my alt :) Share this awesome news that PPL of EVE will rise !! :) To fight together for hybrids re balancing !!!
OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-15 14:20:30 UTC
Planetmaster wrote:

Gallente is still unplayable in most part of the game because hybrids -> both blasters and rails


Gallente is still unplayable in most part of the game because of winmatars.
Every time some galente whine about not beeing able to get in range fast enough he accualy whines about winmatar ship beeing too fast to catch.
Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-11-15 14:21:03 UTC
Live transmision from the protest :) Enjoy or join :) or both :)

http://pl.justin.tv/vas1900#/w/2074249216
Black Dranzer
#11 - 2011-11-15 14:52:45 UTC
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-11-15 14:59:38 UTC
Confirming if I get close to you then you should die instantly in a ball of fire from my awesome blasters.

Don't ban me, bro!
Bilboz
Cranky Old Bastards
#13 - 2011-11-15 15:47:36 UTC
So you really thought CCP was serious about fixing anything? BBBBWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Shocked
Fix Hybrids
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-11-15 15:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Fix Hybrids
You have my velator.

The 'rebalance' changes nothing.
Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-11-15 15:54:01 UTC
Fix Hybrids wrote:
You have my velator.

The 'rebalance' changes nothing.


HA !
Jack bubu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-15 15:56:50 UTC
i too create alts to support my own thread
Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-15 15:59:59 UTC
Bilboz wrote:
So you really thought CCP was serious about fixing anything? BBBBWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Shocked


Well err i dont know.. I dont care but i want them to know our opinion -. so called FEEDBACK they asked for it right ? So Im sure that they can understand OUR message. Game is a product if something is broken and unplayable must be changed right ? Coz otherwise product is broken. So we are giving feedback to Producer. They should be happy with that ! True :) ?

And Yes its fun Im not taking this game serious its just a game.

More ppl joining asking etc. So its fun for all. Errr Maybe not for CCP Soundwave heh :) but who cares. Its his work and my fun :)

CHEERS !! LETS MEET IN JITA !
Jack bubu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-11-15 16:00:42 UTC
So i just had a look, and there are a amazing mass of two ships including the OP shooting the monument

GG OP you gonna make a difference lmao
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-11-15 16:06:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Gaines
I'll shoot the monument with my 425mm Railgun II's but they'll probably only do 20 dps.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.
Sunny Fawkes
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-11-15 16:06:55 UTC
Jack bubu wrote:
So i just had a look, and there are a amazing mass of two ships including the OP shooting the monument

GG OP you gonna make a difference lmao


"Shhitt is good because millions of flies cant be wrong" right ?

Its so called non-conformism are you non-conformist Jack ? Dont get yourself too serious :) Twisted

Cheers ! and Love xoxoxo
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