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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#541 - 2013-09-21 06:49:57 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


If you want to suicide gank? I would have to say so, yes.

It can be done in coordinated groups with artillery Thrashers, but unless you know people who are doing this as a doctrine, I would not recommend it.

Besides, you will get over the weapon animations pretty quickly when you see untanked barges explode fast enough for you to take the pod too.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#542 - 2013-09-21 07:06:03 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#543 - 2013-09-21 07:09:01 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


HOLY ****!

You do this too?!

I thought I was the only crazy freak who puts T2 rockets on my SB, and stalks explorers! I get crap from people all the time for doing it, but it works so well.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#544 - 2013-09-21 07:18:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


HOLY ****!

You do this too?!

I thought I was the only crazy freak who puts T2 rockets on my SB, and stalks explorers! I get crap from people all the time for doing it, but it works so well.


We also have fits for this as its a fun little sport.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#545 - 2013-09-21 07:21:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


HOLY ****!

You do this too?!

I thought I was the only crazy freak who puts T2 rockets on my SB, and stalks explorers! I get crap from people all the time for doing it, but it works so well.


We also have fits for this as its a fun little sport.
Nonsense, you can't fit rockets and covert ops cloaks on a Megathron.

Who put the goat in there?
Dave Stark
#546 - 2013-09-21 07:21:54 UTC
rockets, on a stealth bomber?

this interests me.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#547 - 2013-09-21 07:28:30 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


Shocked
oh really?
I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#548 - 2013-09-21 07:29:57 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


Shocked
oh really?
I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


Liked for the old school Simpsons quote.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#549 - 2013-09-21 07:33:02 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


HOLY ****!

You do this too?!

I thought I was the only crazy freak who puts T2 rockets on my SB, and stalks explorers! I get crap from people all the time for doing it, but it works so well.


I have not tried it. But there is a guy in the minerbumping channel who has had good success with it. There is this JonnyPew video discussing the fit. I've only recent gotten my sb pilot out of mothballs to look for a wormhole to call home. She has torps and just tonight taught a lesson on Polarization to an itty (or whatever its called now) pilot in a C1 on their hisec wh.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#550 - 2013-09-21 07:41:26 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


I hate to hijack this Star Citizen thread, but you could get a stealth bomber, put light missles on it, and kill explorers in lowsec and nullsec running data/relic sites with wanton abandon. Just have to wait until they've opened a few cans so there is some decent loot.


HOLY ****!

You do this too?!

I thought I was the only crazy freak who puts T2 rockets on my SB, and stalks explorers! I get crap from people all the time for doing it, but it works so well.


We also have fits for this as its a fun little sport.
Nonsense, you can't fit rockets and covert ops cloaks on a Megathron.


Well by we I mean Bats. I do however have a cloaky fit mega and the navy does still have a spare slot. I mostly fit a firework launcher in there.
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#551 - 2013-09-23 19:30:26 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

One persistent universe which is why there's a server to store everyone s data. If it wasn't a persistent universe the data could be stored locally. One of the main differences, since its a twitch based game style, is that the server will create an instance of a system if more than 100 people are in one system at a time, otherwise all players play within and together in the one persistent universe.

There are options to lan play or play single player as well.

Another instance, as in another shard(fragment) of the world. Where two people stand in the same geographic location within the world, but cannot interact with each other, as they are on separate shards. You can even create your own shard of the world and play on it solo/just with your friends.

And you call this single shard.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
As for the 100 people having their work undone by 10 people why not? If the 100 all logged off and went to sleep they can't expect to have their "work" aka play protected in a sandbox. If you leave your sand castle and go home, then sure someone can come along and stomp on it. That's what a sand box is about.

The sad part is not the fact you believe this, but how little you have considered the repercussions.

Tell me, who would suffer more without it? The 10,000 man alliance that can have a 250 man fleet form up on a whim to go defend something? Or the high sec industrialist running his POS and having to find (and afford) a merc organization to place a standing fleet there 24/7 for the duration of the war lest 200 battleships show up when he goes to sleep?

Screw the blob yay for the little guy? I don't think so. The timer is there FOR the little guy to slow down the attack and have a chance at mustering friends to defend. If there was no reinforce timer there would be no timer to come back and blob at - the blob would just show up in the first place and destroy it uncontested.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
If you want your sandcastle to be there tomorrow, then make sure some guys are in the pit to protect it while your sleeping.

Yay for the blob, who can actually do such a thing.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
And I have proposed a solution in Assembly Hall for this problem and its not the removal of timers.

Thanks for the link and short description of the idea. It would maybe have had a decent place instead of this post:
Quote:
Lets take an example from history. In WWII we had the German Army on one side and on the other side we had the French Resistance. The French resistance would target something like a railway yard or a barracks. They'd sneak in and plant bombs or raid it. They did quite a lot of damage.

Now imagine if the French resistance had to operate like we do in EvE. Instead of raiding a base and blowing shite up they instead had to Raid the base, which then became invulnerable at 33% damage and had to come back 24 hours later to face the entire German army.

How effective then would they have been. Its a stupid system that purely favors the most powerful and puts the less powerful at an extreme disadvantage.

Where you complained about reinforce timers favoring the zerg, ignoring how it protects the small corps from being overrun while they are not online. Because, you know, when the Germans find the french resistance outpost that goes into reinforce too. So when the timer runs out and the Germans can finally blow it up with their massive army, everyone has already escaped, taking with them anything of value.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#552 - 2013-09-23 19:56:48 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oh I do have some hybrid training. I just love watching those swarms of missiles fly off and splode in the distance. It's a matter of taste, and perhaps a touch of obsession. Will have to give my gunnery skills a little love, I hate to say it but I've been seriously neglecting them. From what I've been reading it seems that it's pretty much blasters or bust.


If you want to suicide gank? I would have to say so, yes.

It can be done in coordinated groups with artillery Thrashers, but unless you know people who are doing this as a doctrine, I would not recommend it.

Besides, you will get over the weapon animations pretty quickly when you see untanked barges explode fast enough for you to take the pod too.

It won't do 800 dps for 2 mil isk, but a rocket Talwar will pull 426 dps with heat and a couple 3% implants for under 9mil.

It's no T2 cat, but you can utilize existing skills and top a meta cat in effective damage on a kin/therm tanked exhumer for a sting to your pocket book. The nice part being explosive damage, which barges won't often tank for past base resists. The raw dps looks higher than a thrasher, but the Thrasher would beat it in a gank scenario thanks to front load high alpha. You'll do 9-10K to a thrasher's 10-12K. But the thrasher can do it in (mostly) EM too.

You could solo untanked retrievers as long as the pilot has less than perfect skills, no implants and no gang links. (rough math off the top of my head, check it before trying)

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=276984&p=38