EVE General Discussion

We can hope.

I'll MT for a handgun.

The RMAH and microtransactions are comparable but not really the same thing. You can do the same thing in Eve simply by buying enough PLEX to purchase what you want from the market, instead of using ISK accumulated yourself. But if they introduce game-balance items directly purchasable for Aurum or whatever, that's when people get angry. I agree there is no need for such a thing in Eve, but I have given it some thought and I can not see a functional difference between that and using PLEX. Assuming of course that things you currently cannot buy on the market, remain so. Of course there are other implications if say, you were suddenly able to buy anything on the market without going to Jita/etc, and I don't have the experience to say whether that would matter to nullsec PvP.

But truly, the largest difference is that the other games discussed are usually not gated by a subscription, and Eve is. It is curious most of the anti-F2P rhetoric is focused around P2W which already exists in a way, and not the sub.

You are under-informed, but in a good way. The summer of rage already happened, and CCP got educated on what would happen if micro-transactions became a thing in EVE.

I'd put some money down for a pirate flag background.

That's really the issue I have with MTs in EVE. Most of them are... pretty pointless.

In addition to everything related to micro transations...


I have no idea how they thought they could have a drop rate high enough that a casual player could get equipment that would let them advance, without the market being overwhelmed with stuff for sale by people who play 10 times the hours weekly.

Even without the Real money auction house, without bind on equip at the least and a bunch of bind on picku-up the market would be awash in everything unless the number of players coming to the game grew exponentially.

Yes, they tried to have a system where items were destroyed for the useful materials attained throguh "reprocessing" . Not enough to keep the best items able to run content on the AH...

They resorted to miniscule drop rates and tightened boss dynanics that were narrow gear checks to ensure that the rarest items were indeed needed.

That meant the game was about trading the AH , stopping at a lover level .. etc?

To be honest.. that was my take from the end of my first month.. I figured a glut was coming with the wave of casual players working their way up.. so I sold the gear I was using for $60 and went on to another game.

I did have a LOT of fun! Good memories. I didn't expect to play it long. Its fight dymanics prior to the patch would have been worth me coming back to if I could still take multiple approaches and use a broad assortment of reasonably attainable gear to take on stuff

Whoever designed the spells and the NPCS etc created something fun to play for me...... (raising repair costs was also a game killer... I don't like doing anything that I can do well.. i like failing until I get something then not coming back after I can do it)

People can visit the monument in jita to see what we think of MT.

CCP even put it in their ten year trailer so the lesson was learned.

Which is one of the few things that felt wrong to me when I started getting into EVE.

Much like, as a former D2 HC player, I had an extremely hard time in WoW getting used to not loosing my character for good after screwing up. So actullay being at risk again to loose stuff was one of the most appealing features of EVE, when I decided it was time to leave WoW.

Players really should build everything used in EVE, including the faction and officer stuff. NPCs seeding resources to support this is fine. But players ahould be doing the manufacturing.

I can hardly wait until we can buy Skill Points with ISK or $$$. It'will be excellent...

Yes they do and yes they are. They have better stats, are easier to fit, aren't readily available to everyone who would want them, so they are in essence "purples."
Just like in any game though, having better gear means absolutely nothing if you simply suck at playing or you are vastly outnumbered.

I never want to see mt in eve, not only did I riot about it with everyone else but I biomassed my 5 year old main and unsubbed at the time, I only came back because there's nothing out there like eve. CCP are damn lucky that they have no quality competitor's. I hope they respect their player base and don't abuse their position by trying to introduce pay to win ever again.