Player Features and Ideas Discussion

1. The Stargates allowed empires to expand, seize new colonies and create their power. Current empires doesn´t have anything, that could allow travels between star systems with the same speed (about 2LY/s, I don´t know exactly how fast is it). The only other way is using the cynos, but it can be used only by caps/specialised ships.
2. The same as in 1.
3. Then, how could we make cynos still so attractive? When all ships would be jumpable, it could kill the current structure of null-sec wars.
4. Thats nice idea. but only if this new system will work.
5. Yeah, all what I need, is trail for hostile fleet following my ship.
6. Then gatecamps will be much more effective - everyone will spawn at sun, and chances of survival in null for pirates will be lower than 1%.

Instead of nerfing gatecamps, it will make them much more powerfull. Current system works pretty well, and I don´t see the point, why your system is better as gates/cynos.

Thats what I think about it.

Thank you for the answers, i admit that the lore is heavyly build around that Gates but it could simply implified that the Technologie throught Sleeper Tech evolved until Gates wont be nessecery anymore.

But some things where missunderstood, i dont care about Gatecamping in the first place, we could easely Turn the sides and say let Jump to every Planet instead of Suns. So now Camping would be nerfed...

But please forget Camps for a sec.

I do want being hunted by my trails if you want to Fool them warp first then jump but i do not want make Cyno useless (see above keep the current Routes!) you still have to Jump several Times from Jita to Amarr (for Example).

Bubbles still could hold you down when jumping, but only able to suck you while warping in a system.

Scram and Points would still prevent you from Jumping (remember its not a Cynojump).

You can also bump him to prevent the Target from Jumping.

The major advantage would be that activ traveling speed would be increased which means that moving a gang or fleet or even solo would be less of a task, more fluid and the the only change would be, no more warping to a gate, to jump in another System only to Warp again to the next Gate only to Jump?

Sure the downside would be no more smartbombing small Ships during reaching a Gate, but at least it would be compensite with more campings ;-)

Again you could simply make all Planets and Suns jumpable wouldnt be that hard.

And i believe that it would fit easely into the lore, because you need a special Event to celebrate such giant changes, anyway.

I honestly don't see this as an improvement to game play.

Sure i dont want to break Eve but the Gates where there for a simple reason to conect Servers, they want a Serverside Trigger, i believe if CCP would have the Technologie and resources they would make one Real Single Universe instead of "playable Rooms" aka Systems with doors.

After 10 years CCP introduce Loadingscreen free Travel between two Systems do you really believe they want the current System any longer?

To combine, reasonable gameplay with immersive gameplay you have to Break rules and that Idea could be one (from many) Solutions to combine gameplay, technology and immersion.

It could build a new Layer for another 10 years until we reach another Point where we can find even a better Idea.

And the Lore dont make that much sense, remember when they introduce more Systems and the W-Space? Yeah sure another 1000 of Gates in one Year After the first Takes nearly hundrets, or WH several years without any hint and then Bang! WH everywhere without any evolving in Technologie.

Yeah seems legit...

Perhaps this isn't a bad idea... Woops, wrong thread :p

Oh and also found this Remove Stargates in, wait for it, here: Commonly Proposed Ideas. You know that Dev Sticky right? The one on Page 1. It's Post #2 6th on the list in case you missed it.

there is really no reason why ships cannot simply WARP from system to system, except that it would take much longer - partially because even the fastest ships can only warp at about 12au/sec, and a single light-year = approximately 63kau. therefore just to travel a SINGLE light-year at the fastest achievable warp speed would take about 2 hours, not accounting for the multiple stops it would take because a ship can only warp as far as it's capacitor would allow. even ships with mids fully filled with capacitor batteries would only be able to warp about 1000au or so in a single go (and you would stll have to refit to be combat capable once at your destination). I couldnt bear having to wait for who knows how many hours just to get between systems in a single constellation - can you?

the above is why the gates are REALLY necessary - forget about the lore saying that gates are the only way to travel... it's because they're the most efficient way to travel (everything else is political rulemaking). also, if ships were capable of interstellar navigation without the gates, they would all have to have MUCH more powerful sensor suites than presently - insanely high sensor resolution with extremely high sensitivity (easy as hell to jam). I can imagine the empires fielding such ships for the purpose of pre-exploring ungated systems before gate construction takes place, and there was a storyline in the last couple years where some NPC dude was going to use just such a ship to investigate a bright celestial object that appeared in new eden about that time (it could be seen from every system)... I wonder what happened to that guy?

now... would it be interesting to fit a ship specifically for this kind of role? hell yeah. have new sensor modules for the high slots, and huge capacitor batteries for the mids. maybe blockade runners would be well suited... they could run blockades not by just being cloaky, but by not having to deal with gates and gatecamps. combat ships? maybe make marauders be able to do this job... it would give them an excuse for having ridiculously easy to jam sensors - super sensitive, they would be able to use them to warp between systems, and not need a cyno at the expense of taking forever to do it, and running the risk of getting jammed out by somebody sneezing the wrong way.

The problems you present is the reason such a function would be well balanced. it would be time consuming but it would be POSSIBLE.
I think we are just saying that gates are fine, but warping between systems should be possible. Think for example that you have an extraordinary load and you would much prefer for it to take 4 days, just to know that the chances of getting caught is much lower.

Granted, there would need to be new problems introduces so scanning of the void would be possible, thus making it dangerous, while still safer simply because its the void.

warp-speed would be a factor if you choose this strategy or not, so would capacitor.

No Problem just another Step into a more indepth Scifi Game.

Its really hard to come with Ideas when everyone just came Up and blame your Idea, instead of Brainstorming the Pros and Cons.

If you try you can Win or lose, if you wont try at all you losing anyway...