Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Falloff works on ECM just as it works on everything else.

mm.. i've been told otherwise and besides i think reducing strength the further you go into falloff is a better mechanic for all e-war

If you reduce ECMs range you need to make a few changes first.

ECM should be a highslot module, and ECM boats should loose some midslots so they aren't lol wtf op.

Now your jammer tengu can actually shield tank and the scorpion isn't squashed like a bug.

file a petition then....you know of an exploit in eve that has gone on since falcon's nerfed long ago. I am sure this petitiion will go far with I Heard from friend of a of friend who has a girlfriend who has a cousin who heard from this guy on the street ecm falloff is broken.


If ecm falloff was broken ccp would know about it. YOu see when alliance/corp A puts up way too many cans (or bubbles on a gate) alliance/corp B petitions it and if lucky a gm or isd is online to actually see this and correct aliiance A on ths spot. This is minor crap and yet you will find hundreds to drop dimes for it daily.

With ecm so loved if it was full strength at falloff the blobbers alone would have petitions in hourly.

When you try to jam someone in Falloff range it works exactly the same as trying to damp someone in falloff range. It's chance based on how deep they are into falloff. In the case of ECM you have the jam chance first, if successful then you have another chance to fail based on how far into your falloff they are.

I don't think nerfing the range on ECM will change any of the issues with the mechanic. ECM doesn't need to be nerfed, it needs to be changed.

Lets give an example.

A falcon tries to jam an RLM Cerberus that fires CN Scourge Missiles at him from 90km away. The falcon has a quad rainbow ECM fitting with meta4 ECMs, boosted by an SDA, a PDA and a T2 PDP. The Falcon heats its BZ-5 and fires.

Probability of jamming:

1. The range of the module is 58.8+48.1km. At 90km away, there is a 66% chance that the module will hit.
2. The Cerb has a sensor strength of 28.8 and the OH BZ-5 fires at 15.5. This means there is a 54% that the module will jam.

The probability of jamming per 20s is about 35%. That means, 2 out of 3 times the falcon will miss.

Now lets see a cheap Celestis can do. Lets say it fires only one scripted muon, and that it uses no rigs to augment it.

1. The range of the module is 81+135km. At 90km away, there is a 97% chance that the module will hit.
2. The Cerb has a targeting range of 119km and the muon fires at 58.4%.

The outcome 97% of the time is a Cerberus with a maximum targeting range of 51km that has to close a 40km distance before refiring.

Hope that helps, cheers...C:

Thematically, slashing the effective range of ECM works quite nicely - making the module into a sort of inverse sensor dampener where the opponent has to retreat to medium-long range to maintain a lock would be exactly the sort of thing you'd expect a sniper-themed race like Caldari to do against a point-blank blasterboat race like the Gallente.

There would need to be some other tweaks to ECM platforms to make it work but it is one of the only suggestions I've seen to change ECM that didn't immediately stand out as an excuse to nerf all ECM to oblivion.

This is how it works.

Your jam strength: 10
Target's sensor strength: 20
Optimal Range: 50 km
Falloff Range: 50 km

At 50km you have a 50% chance of getting a jam
At 100km you have a 25% chance of getting a jam