Ships & Modules

Low sp toon, mostly drone skills. Can be shield or armor, heavy or sentry based.. dont matter. I'd rather not have the fit cost more than the ship. The fit is for hisec plexes and figuring out whether or not i like drones

The current fit is as follows:
low:
3x drone dmg amp II
1x DCU
2x CPU upgrades

med:
1x 10mn ab
2x large ancillary shield boosters
1x T1 invul

highs:
2x 125mm rails
1x tractor beam
1x probe launcher

rigs:
2x anti em shield
1x anti thermal shield


drones:
5xogre I

Its cheap and it works but its kinda annoying, heres why:
i put the rails on it to shoot frigs that heavies might not be able to hit but the damage they do is such crap that heavies kill them faster anyway. I thought about putting medium blasters on it but cant afford it cpu wise (all though i could in a couple of days).
It's omni tanked, i figured it would be nice and convenient but its really not, in cases where i'd relly want to fit for rat specific tank i cant.
I mostly like ASB's but they are ridiculous on this ship since the shield buffer is so small. I figured that fitting two would lower the impact of the 60s recharge but not enough. I nearly got creamed vs 3 cruiser rats and a bunch of scramming frigs a little while ago due to the 25s hole.
The AB i fit for wannabe speed tanking but turns out babysitting the drones and shield boosters leaves little time for doing it efficiently.
The only thing im really pleased with is the drone damage but thats about it, its a pain in the ass to fly and i cant do a proper dr. evil impression irl :/

i dont want to

Your nephew sounds like a smart kid.

- you do not want to use heavy drones in hisec plexes. they are too slow to kill frigate rats efficiently. use lights, mediums and sentries.
- the large majority of hisec plexes require little to no tank.
- you can always dock and switch up your fit, so omnitanking is a silly idea.
- it would be much smarter to fit some probing upgrades, since your ship is not bonued.
- there is no good reason to run with ASBs over regular shield boosters. add a cap booster if you are too worried about your cap.

Unless plex rats have gotten significantly nastier while I have been gone, you don't need ASBs to tank them. ASB is a burst tank for PVP. I'd use an LSE or two - maybe a large or medium shield repper. It should free up a low or two from the CPU upgrades and you can put in the lowslot shield mods for a passive tank. The name escapes me right now. Basically research the drake passive shield tank, and adjust it as necessary for your VNI.

Use hammerheads or hobs for damage, simply because it seems you may not have skills that are all topped off. You can also try gardes and OTLs. Those might have trouble with frigs though.

Lots of options for you. Main point is that in pve you want cap and tank endurance. You don't need a burst tank. Removing the ASBs should free up a lot of fitting.

That poor, abused Navy Vexor ...

First off, you should work on your Fitting, Engineering, Electronics and Targeting skills ... then, if you want to go the drone route, you'll need to work on drone support skills too.

I've slightly modified my usual fit to get a Probe Launcher in there since you want to do 'plexes in it, but here's what I'd use :

[Vexor Navy Issue, Navy Vexor]

Lows :

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

Mediums :

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Highs :

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
Small Remote Armor Repairer II

Rigs :

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones :

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Swap the hardeners for EANMs if you want to be omnitanked, or else use the right hardeners for the 'rats of the region you're in.

Mostly use the Sentries to clear things at range, then switch to Lights to kill the Frigates, and maybe Mediums for close-orbiting Cruisers (if you haven't killed them with Sentries, that is).

That fit above is cap stable at 45% without the Small Remote Armor Repairer running, but that one is only there to repair your drones if/when they get targeted.

Please don't use ASB's in PvE, they are a burst tank PvP module, and even if you're stubborn and want to use shield boosting on an armor boat, Large Shield booster pulsed when you take damage is better.

Don't bother helping OP, he is clearly a massive tool and all the good advice will fall on deaf ears.

OP, your fit is awe-inspiring and revolutionary. I suggest you change nothing and keep flying it as you posted. (This is what OP wants to hear, any other advice is wasted)

Why would you ever compare the 'cost' of these modules in m3?? One is for PvP the other PvE.

Ok so since you posted a fail fit, let me post one that works:

High:
Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
Drone Link Augmentator II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher

Mid:
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Republic Fleet 10mn Afterburner

Low:
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Corpus C-Type Damange specific Hardener
Corpus C-Type Damange specific Hardener
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Rigs:
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Ionic Field Projector II

Drones:
5x light II (For example 5x Hobgoblin II)
5x Medium II (For example 5x Hammerhead II)
5x Sentry II (For example 5x Garde II)

Let me elaborate; This fit is cap stable (assuming you don't keep the Remote repper / afterburner on 24/7 ...) and will do 750dps at 50km with Gardes. There's no point in fitting 2 Drone link augmentators, since your drone control range should already be way further than your ship's maximum target range. Instead, I would only fit one and leave a high slot open. Maybe you can use it for a Salvager or something. I would also increase the target range a bit by fitting an Ionic Field Projector Rig. Fitting rails is no good, you'll take CPU/Powergrid away from other modules wihch would give you a much greater benefit.

You should fit 2 damage specific hardeners, the Corpus C-Types aren't that expensive. This tank should be more than enough for anything you run in to The whole fit all together including hull should put you back around 400mill. You can swap out everything for TII, except the hardeners, and still fit this and be cap stable. That'll also drop the price down to 200ish mill, including hull.

As other people have said, Heavy drones are no good for this kind of stuff. You should consider the Sister's Probe launcher since you have no bonuses on your ship. You should tank certain damage types, not everything at once. If need be, carry around 2 spare hardeners so you can just swap out for whatever you need.

i have since swapped to a gila until i get my support skills up enough to go for an ishtar.
Also all the fits you guys posted would have melted against what my fit survived since the total amount of damage they could have sustained in that time frame is much smaller. I admit it was fail piloting on my part but these sorts of things happen when experimenting.
Also you cant label ASB's exclusively as pvp gear, they are modules like any other and while they might not be as convenient to use as a regular booster/rep they allow for low skilled toons to have a beefier tank than they could with any other gear.

Your fit is perfect and there can't be anthing changed to improve it.
It is so good i will take it as ref for myself.


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