Intergalactic Summit

(Sorry for double post, wanted to address Miss Kim separately)



You quote valid points. Yet one prospect continues to come to mind, suppose Gallente stop being Gallente one day, Diana?

Atop of being able to argue they're no longer proud of themselves, loyal to their own foundations, -all the things key within the State (such a prospect sets you up to loath them in that light)... suppose their nature provokes their downfall and the State reigns supreme. What then, Diana?

The moment they become truly inferior, like us, the Minmatar, just another band of lost people without the guidance provided in the State, what then?

Do you begin to educate us, promote patriotism, inspire from the outside how great your State is? You'll do so already through success in such time.

Will we be able to pull your own card in saying you're trying to influence others with your culture? Even if that originally isn't your intention?


Just an interesting future prospect, made from someone in a neutral position, originating from a society that is far more lost than anything that can be argued of the Federation, or the State.

*snicker* Do not worry, Miss Gesakaarin... Diana is a beautiful little machine of hate, I was honestly expecting worse a word than just 'foreigner' ... is it bad that I find it cute and perhaps a little exotic of an insult?

As was pointed out earlier, she HAS to reject your words because you are Gallente. It's not you, personally, its your kin and race's history that provokes it, both of which I'll politely argue she is in her right to express. The only way I can imagine you being able to make a mark with Miss Kim is in meeting her on her level. Statements like,

"You should hate me, Diana. I don't blame you. I regret dearly the differences between us for there are so many similarities. Our sense of loyalty is shared, our drive equally strict and unrelenting. In many ways, I admire you Diana. No amount of hate can change that."

or,

"History isn't kind; for the Federation to impose as it has, to try to force that beacon of light on others, no matter the intentions behind, Diana, I get it. I actually don't like that side of my peers. Especially when I find traits like your patriotism, loyalty, honor, and dignity absolutely noble and where we are so different, I hate where I see us all so similar. Perhaps one day, we won't be enemies. Perhaps one day I'll be more than just disgusting in your eyes... Until then, I salute you, Diana. Don't stop being the voice of your people."

Statements like that, in flow or nature of being expressed, are key in being able to seed the thought that not all of the Federation is the evil Diana knows so well. Any point made to express, "though you've lost faith in me, I have not lost faith in you.." go a long way so long as they're not expressed from a place of power or overlooking. For then you're acting completely Gallente, using noble traits to acquire your agenda.

Validate the points you can relate, the similarities where you can't, and hope for a time where things aren't so grim between your races... Sadly, that is the only way.



FYI... Welcome to world of savage Minmatar. If you think Gallente roots (as pretty as they might be) can be possibly bad, or even the bold patriotic survival roots of the Caldari, just try to imagine the girl who wakes up every day, looking into the mirror, knowing she's a savage underdeveloped monster...

I have much more faith in Diana finding her way and/or you, than I do for the tribal girl in the mirror.

This only displays lack of analytic abilities in that tiny brain of yours.


Unlike you, tyuui, I don't have friends among those, who fight against the State.
And I don't plan on having ones.
Hell is that way, please go there alone and forgotten.

It warms my heart to see that the irony of human nature to inflict upon itself self-parody and satire by actors oblivious to their own roles remains unchanged.

It truly is a thing of beauty.

But my laughter gained. My amusements extracted, I leave the stage to you both Ms. Kim and Ms. Dea. May you continue to hold your mirrors darkly to each other.

If you're intentions are true and character sound, I would see this as a noble and honorable call, albeit not delivered in the best manner or medium. Best of luck regardless.

Moitte.

Agreed.

I am curious to understand why she believes the way she does, and my offer to her is always open even though it may very well end in a gunfight, knifefight, or hand to hand combat... Hopefully, though, just fishing.

Still, she is entitled to her beliefs, even though I disagree with all of the gallente as inferior stuff, granted I consider myself Intaki, not Gallente.

As I mentioned above, she is still going to hate you. And she is in her right for doing so. You shouldn't be offering her anything, as you are appearing in a dominating position. After all, you own her home world, her culture is deemed unfit within your society, else Caldari Prime would have never ended up in the hands of the Gallente in the first place.

Your race has committed a grave terrible crime against her people and push it further in the discreet influence of the Federation, and now it can be argued you hide it behind noble intentions. Do you not see how sour your offer is?

This should jog your memory:
Gallente/Caldari War - The Breakout

Cease your offer, if you really do care for her, and honor the reasoning behind her childish stance.

Give her that credit at least.


P.S. Even statements quoting Sisters of EVE in how we all come from the same origins. That's a slap in the face for those trying to face the justice of their home in the hands of the those who have no respect for their way of life.

I am/was referring to you. What people fail to realize is that plain simple conversation/interaction is so far beyond Diana Kim with her (even at times considered childish) hate, and you (for sake of business and fishing) don't seem to care about the greater situation going on. That's the realm of Diana Kim and the source of her pure complete disgust of you and your race.

I may not know what specifics were included within your offer but I can very easily tell you why it has never been considered.

You're Gallente and you're digging a deeper hole by reminding her of that offer now, as if to only assert further that you really don't care about her point of view and the mirrored view of her people.

You don't have to dig for it, you don't need a private moment for it, it is clearly and elegantly put by Diana Kim even to the point of considered childish.

Make the point that there's other capsuleers out there that you dine with, that don't care about what's going on, and you'll inspire her to hate them too. Hell, you've made me hate them already.

You're all hippies in my eyes, delusional to the greater injustice at work and incompetent as immortals and your responsibility to your roots (as Diana is sticking true to hers, and fighting for her people). Diana would call the Caldari in your group traitors and the rest scum for that is the capacity she has present day. I however, am not as nice.



And that's fine too, I'm starting to get sick of trying to to defend your kind these days, the Federation militia is winning this little game set by CONCORD of "claiming" space and it's sickening to watch, even from within the ranks of them. I try to educate others on the injustice that I've slowly been uncovering that has been done to the Caldari people and I'm shut down at every turn. That hurts, clearly all of you are here for the sex and glory, and use of your immortality for personal pleasure. (Should I include fishing here?)

I, the lone true freedom fighter I feel like right now, can't afford that. For after the problem child of the Caldari in your society, comes the Minmatar... and that's a problem that is going to get far more ugly because of people like you.

I would advise against blaming the Gallente-Caldari war on one side in particular. Not only have historians never been able to come to a consensus as to the definitive cause of the war and who the aggressor was, but it's incredibly inflammatory and only causes a massive argument. It's pretty much guaranteed to derail a thread.

If you absolutely must need to blame someone, it's best to blame the extremist groups of both sides. Particularly the Gallente Ultra-Nationalist and the Patriots in the CEP.



Way to be completely insensitive to her personal history.