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Gas Cloud Harvesters - Why...
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Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#1 - 2011-11-14 00:52:35 UTC
...why are they considered turrets? (not to mention miners, but that is another issue)...

It seems odd that barges and Exhumers cannot fit these (or regular miners, but why would they since they use a better version - that makes sense)... but gas seems to be an odd thing - unless we get barge/exhumer version of this module? Gas Stripper? - that sounds not so good.

Ok, why CCP can not a ORE ship not mount these? 3 on a hulk seems fine - less than a BC so it's not going to unbalance the gas industry, but the hold size would be a nice plus and also it seems that these would be the very ships that should mount them...
Ugh
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#2 - 2011-11-14 02:52:38 UTC
They take turrets to prevent the Drake from being the only ship you ever need to fly in EVE.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#3 - 2011-11-14 03:04:11 UTC
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
They take turrets to prevent the Drake from being the only ship you ever need to fly in EVE.


That is rediculous - obviously you do not now what your talking about...

1. you can only mount/use max 5 of them on a ship... 1 per level of skill.
2. there are plenty of ships that are bigger with more CPU and cargo than a Drake, and so again that statement was just ignorant.
3. since you can get 1 per skill a hulk is actually a downgrade from a Ferox or other BC/BS with 5 of the - but you get a larger buff cargo out of the deal... longer to harvest but more space for the duration - and since there is no upgrade to use them - 3x and hten the buff from the slot 6 implant is all you get... but...

WHY is a mining harveter not able to be fitting on a mining ship? - this make no sense, even less than the above ignorant post.

Hulk = 3x T2 Harvesters, and then a tank and cargo room to harvest gas in low/null... using combat ships is rather silly given the task and the background... rather like a mining Battleship??? is this really useful? CCP said it wasn't logical and ORE gave use bargest and exhumers and strip miners... yes you can still mine with combat ships but they are not nearly as effective, so why are we using them to gas havest???
Teh Frog
Exotic Connections
#4 - 2011-11-14 03:09:00 UTC
Because combat ships make the best gas miners. Derp.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#5 - 2011-11-14 03:13:13 UTC
Teh Frog wrote:
Because combat ships make the best gas miners. Derp.


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Nor Tzestu
Dos Pollos Hermanos
#6 - 2011-11-14 03:26:48 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
They take turrets to prevent the Drake from being the only ship you ever need to fly in EVE.


That is rediculous - obviously you do not now what your talking about...

1. you can only mount/use max 5 of them on a ship... 1 per level of skill.
2. there are plenty of ships that are bigger with more CPU and cargo than a Drake, and so again that statement was just ignorant.
3. since you can get 1 per skill a hulk is actually a downgrade from a Ferox or other BC/BS with 5 of the - but you get a larger buff cargo out of the deal... longer to harvest but more space for the duration - and since there is no upgrade to use them - 3x and hten the buff from the slot 6 implant is all you get... but...

WHY is a mining harveter not able to be fitting on a mining ship? - this make no sense, even less than the above ignorant post.

Hulk = 3x T2 Harvesters, and then a tank and cargo room to harvest gas in low/null... using combat ships is rather silly given the task and the background... rather like a mining Battleship??? is this really useful? CCP said it wasn't logical and ORE gave use bargest and exhumers and strip miners... yes you can still mine with combat ships but they are not nearly as effective, so why are we using them to gas havest???



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Fedimart
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-14 03:28:32 UTC
Nor Tzestu wrote:
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
They take turrets to prevent the Drake from being the only ship you ever need to fly in EVE.


That is rediculous - obviously you do not now what your talking about...

1. you can only mount/use max 5 of them on a ship... 1 per level of skill.
2. there are plenty of ships that are bigger with more CPU and cargo than a Drake, and so again that statement was just ignorant.
3. since you can get 1 per skill a hulk is actually a downgrade from a Ferox or other BC/BS with 5 of the - but you get a larger buff cargo out of the deal... longer to harvest but more space for the duration - and since there is no upgrade to use them - 3x and hten the buff from the slot 6 implant is all you get... but...

WHY is a mining harveter not able to be fitting on a mining ship? - this make no sense, even less than the above ignorant post.

Hulk = 3x T2 Harvesters, and then a tank and cargo room to harvest gas in low/null... using combat ships is rather silly given the task and the background... rather like a mining Battleship??? is this really useful? CCP said it wasn't logical and ORE gave use bargest and exhumers and strip miners... yes you can still mine with combat ships but they are not nearly as effective, so why are we using them to gas havest???



Dear Sir,

It has come to our attention at the ACME sarcasm detector corporation that we inadvertently sold you a defective unit. As we feel we have obviously greatly inconvenienced you, and sadly the readers of your posts on the "EVE" forums we wish to extend to you the choice of a replacement unit, or a factory recalibration of your current unit. Obviously at no cost to yourself.

To the readers of said posts we extend a hardy apology for this oversight, and can assure you that the Minmatar slaves who put it together have been reprimanded for their clearly substandard work. Again, we apologize to all who had to read the shitshow that ensued from our defective device.

Nor Tzestu
CEO of the ACME Sarcasm Detector Corporation




I love it!
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2011-11-14 08:58:28 UTC
There really should be a dedicated or bonused gas harvesting ship.

Personally, this is what I use:


[Ferox, Gas Harvester]
Co-Processor II
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Damage Control II

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Potato IQ
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-11-14 10:24:31 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
They take turrets to prevent the Drake from being the only ship you ever need to fly in EVE.


That is rediculous - obviously you do not now what your talking about...


Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Bright people online tonight...Roll ... and I suppose you hull tank your ships also...Roll


Priceless
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#10 - 2011-11-15 00:30:26 UTC
Quote:
Bright people online tonight... ... and I suppose you hull tank your ships also...



Just Orcas

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thrulinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-11-15 00:38:59 UTC
I wondered this my self. All i can say is the developer responsible for this device was drunk at the time and just to screw with us players decided that this must be placed on a turret slot, and only one per skill level..
Have a nice day.
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-11-15 01:14:13 UTC
I'd probably lobby to make the Retriever (or the barge that comes before that, what's it called? The useless one with 1 turret) outmine battleships before I worried about gas harvesting.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#13 - 2011-11-15 05:11:35 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
Quote:
Bright people online tonight... ... and I suppose you hull tank your ships also...



Just Orcas


Clue for you on fittings - 99.99% reduction in the hitting of Gas Harvesters and then you put the CPU or PG up is just one way to keep EVERY ship in the game from mounting it - another would be how they mount the Skiff.... etc... obviously you never really look at this way the game is designed...

Anyone with an intelligent thing to say on this subject? I think we have heard from the shallow end of the gene-pool enough.
Goose99
#14 - 2011-11-15 05:13:21 UTC
We should have static gas clouds just like belts...Bear
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#15 - 2011-11-15 05:20:49 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
We should have static gas clouds just like belts...Bear


*gives up and goes and does L1 Miner Missions - it would be more fun than this thread* Roll
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-15 07:07:41 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
I think we have heard from the shallow end of the gene-pool enough.


You should probably stop posting then

Although the sound of jokes flying over your head was probably on the verge of drowning you out anyway, thank God
Destroperuk
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#17 - 2011-11-15 10:53:17 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
We should have static gas clouds just like belts...Bear


*gives up and goes and does L1 Miner Missions - it would be more fun than this thread* Roll


I like you.
thrulinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-15 14:28:03 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:


Anyone with an intelligent thing to say on this subject? I think we have heard from the shallow end of the gene-pool enough.


Except we all got this one..
CCP says so that is why. No reason for it. They tell you it is a turret, you place it on a ship with a turret slot, you go mine a gas cloud.
Mal Nina
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#19 - 2011-11-15 16:56:53 UTC
It is the way it is and it gives you a reason to have a ferox... though I do prefer my cane for the job Shocked

However, the future should have a dedicated gas miner in it somewhere. I would hope with something like the equivalant of a strip miner. If you have ever sat on a C540 cloud you will now why they are called the clouds of doom.
Marl Shawn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-15 18:11:37 UTC
Mal Nina wrote:
It is the way it is and it gives you a reason to have a ferox... though I do prefer my cane for the job Shocked

However, the future should have a dedicated gas miner in it somewhere. I would hope with something like the equivalant of a strip miner. If you have ever sat on a C540 cloud you will now why they are called the clouds of doom.

Best 7 hours of my life.