EVE General Discussion

Get a T3 cruiser hull with interdiction nullifier. Never worry about a bubble again.

EC-P8R is a good place to learn. I recommend that you just go there and hang around the gate and observe while cloaked. You will learn more doing that than just reading about it in the forums, and that Torrinos get in EC-P8R is probably one of the most active bubble-camped gates. I still have an alt logged in that system for occasional fun and seeing what's new in bubble-camping from time to time.


Most of the gates in nullsec are not as camped as the highsec-nullsec jumps, so don't let these few gates be the impression that nullsec is like that. 99 percent of them are deserted. Use all of the usual tools and tactics and stay out of the main travel pipelines and you will be OK.

F10 star map, filter it for pilots in space or pilots docked and active.
As we can see, hardly anybody is in nullsec. Ever.
The cure for covops craft is usually a couple dramiels with sensor boosters scripted for fast lock. Min lock time is 1 second due to the limits of internet packet transfer etc.
Bigger stuff dies to interdictors with an alt for eyes next door so they can choose their fights.
Cloaked nullified t3 stratcruisers are usually for travel and will die to bad luck, good bait and complacency.
I've been in a gatecamp that couldn't catch a cloaked mammoth slowboating out of a large t2 bubble and there were about 20 of us whizzing around trying to decloak him. He must have been sweating ice chips for all those minutes he was inching out of that bubble.
That's something i really love about EvE; forget the leetists and egotards, luck and lag play as much a part as any skill or setup.

if you're in a covops ship you can click somewhere in space, cloak and head off at your ships max velocity (no AB or MWDs while cloaked though) until you reach the edge of the bubble and then warp off.

it's that simple, really! obviously they will try to stop you by tactical placement of junk to decloak you and tweeky interceptor pilots headed for your last visible position so you may want to twist and turn a bit. your will have your session change timer to appraise the situation.

the one thing that will get you is interdictors because you'll think oh look no bubbles, go to warp off and suddenly get bubbled, stopped in your tracks and killed. so, always assume they're there if there's someone in local and behave like you're already in a bubble, click away from stuff into space and cloak, then warp to your target celestial when nothing happens.

How to get through Bubble Camps. Avoid them.

If at all possible, try to go in with fast frigate and set up tacticals. Jump in and MWD out away from the gate to 200-225km from the gate and save the location, call it TAC XXX. Do the same for each gate in each system. When you get into a system, warp to the tactical on the gate you wish to go through. You wont be pulled into a bubble if done correctly. Also, if you don't have a tactical, next best thing is to never jump directly to a gate at any range. Always bounce off a celestial object (preferably a planet or moon) first. The bubbles are usually set up from gate to gate. If you hit a celestial first, you will almost always avoid a bubble when you warp to the gate at zero. Watch out for Interdictors and hictors when you warp into a gate camp. They can throw up a bubble and you will probably not make it out unless you can crash the gate you just came through. This is only an issue in null as you can't bubble in low sec.

tl:dr
1 . set up tacticals at every chance you get
2. never jump directly to a gate, always bounce off a celestial (try not to use the sun, experianced campers sometimes bubble from the gate and the sun).

Hope this helps.

EDIT: you need to be at least 150km away from a gate to be able to warp to it. So if you set up your TACs 200km away from gates, you can warp from the gate to your tac and your tac to the gate. This also helps you see what is coming and going from a safe distance. Also, always ALWAYS keep moving when you are at your tactical. If you don't, a crafty person will cloak up and move to you, save your tac and his corp can drop right on you. If you are always in motion, they can't get your tac.

Happened to me leaving Cloud Ring. I took the long way around so I could hit the quieter systems. Turns out I landed in camp with a hictor. There was about 20 ships of varying classes. They dropped the bubble on a Drake that went through just before I landed on grid in the system prior. I was filled to the max with T2 stuff and swag from ratting. I was sweating bullets once they crushed the Drake and they went looking for me. I managed to cloak before they tried to target me, but they had 2 Ranis and 1 Stiletto in my area trying to decloak me. Had the Drake not been there or had I panicked, I would have bought the farm. Hense, LUCK. When i hit warp, the Stiletto was about 2.2k from me.

Fun times.

If you get through a gate camp and they see you are in a frigate, assume the next gate camp you see is using smartbombing BSes that will blap you when you warp to the gate even if you are cloaked. It's mostly a danger in low sec probably not as much in null.

Wow. A lot of information in those 2 pages. Some things I had not even thought of. All welcome, and taken in.
Well I'm heading off tomorrow. Armed with speed, a cloak, probe launcher, and my wits.
Fully expect to die a few times on my way. But I'll take the podding without complaint. And I'll learn from it.
Would love to have skills for a T3, and all the subsystems and mods. Be able to fight back. But thats probably a couple of months off.
Thanks for all your help and info.
And not a single smart alec post, or jibe, or threat. o/

The bubble has to be on grid with your destination and on a line connecting your warp point and the destination.

What "breach warp tunnel" means is that you might drop out of warp 150km from your destination.