EVE General Discussion

Station trading is frankly too much like work for some (many) folks. It requires thinking, and attention to detail. Even I, who *could* do station trading if ISK were my primary goal, find it immensely tedious - I do enough thinking and attention-to-detail at work, thank you!


On the other hand, our chosen (or at least one of our chosen) play-styles is under continuous attack by a batch of whingers who can't even be bothered to actually, you know, engage in the game. Whine, kvetch, snivel, all teh time. Well, that's precisely what pushed me to gank in the first place... the self-entitled whinging of a bunch of people who fail to understand the core concepts, but still wnat to be treated as special snowflakes.

The miners, I mean. Gankers are special snowflakes who understand the game and are willing to actually, you know - go out and get involved.

Enough. No more. We nee a new label - Carebears are fine, mostly. I don't have a problem with them - most understand the game just fine, and make reasonable accomodations to deal with those aspects they don't care for - like exploding. But these whining, whinging, snivelling miners... These... pantywastes have got to go. Or have got to learn that they are not so important as they think they are.

CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me. But we need more Yaaar! in this game, lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace!

As someone who leads ganking fleets accross highsec, I can assure you that it is not mindless & a lot of work goes in to chaining successful ganks. The only thing miners see is the end result.

What's mind boggling is your ability to contradict yourself. Either CCP wants high sec ganking, or they do not. There is no gray area that needs fixing. The safety system is already in place. They could, very literally, turn high sec ganking off tomorrow by engaging all safeties in high sec. Problem solved. There's nothing mechanically that would be broken by it.



And yet people still jetcan regularly. I see Retrievers stacking them five and six deep and letting them sit until the absolute last minute to bring in that hauler alt.

You have yet to explain why behaviors cannot be removed 'because of the sandbox,' yet by your own admission CCP has done this in the past, disregarding the 'sandbox' entirely.

Damn skippy.

Setting up a fleet, moving into position (often through hostile space), scouting, setting up the traps, more scouting... Been there, done that. And sometimes, you still come up mostly empty.

Ganking isn't just "See target, Lock target, F1, Concordokken!" There's intelligence to be gathered, plans to be made, targets to be identified. People think it's easy because all they see is the "F1,Concordokken" end of it. They don't see the effort that comes before - It's invisible to them (as it should be, if I've done my job right).

And sure, Barges are easier than some targets. But they're not effort-free.

What can I say? I'm a nice person!

That's hilarious.

You think it's easy because all you see is the end result.

Fixed your post

You only die to ganks when you're AFK. Why should you win against people who aren't AFK?

Turn-about *is* fair play. 18 nerfs and a Barge buff... I'd say they've had their way, and then some. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; it's time for ours.

Spoken like someone who has no clue. Come, join us, and see how the other half lives. You'll find it isn't nearly as simple as you think.


Mis-information is funny. Clearly, they've never tried ganking a Skiff.