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A Public Service Announcement from the New Order of Hisec
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7'62 SKS
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-09-18 13:54:41 UTC  |  Edited by: 7'62 SKS
I dunno, maybe there was a wardec. Or maybe he went AFK after you popped his ship. Why wait 2 mins to pop the pod, if not waiting for others to whore on it? Figuring that out would require effort on my part which would require more "give a ****" than loling at the entire thing in forums.

I appreciate the offer to join, but again, that RP. *shiver* Do I really have to run around acting like I'm on some sort of religious crusade, or can I just show up and press da buttun?
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-09-18 14:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Soylent Jade
7'62 SKS wrote:
I dunno, maybe there was a wardec. Or maybe he went AFK after you popped his ship. Why wait 2 mins to pop the pod, if not waiting for others to ***** on it? Figuring that out would require effort on my part which would require more "give a ****" than loling at the entire thing in forums.

I appreciate the offer to join, but again, that RP. *shiver* Do I really have to run around acting like I'm on some sort of religious crusade, or can I just show up and press da buttun?


1) Hedion University = NPC corp, so no war dec. Having a wardec would kinda negate the need to suicide gank, anyway.
2) What moron would go AFK in a pod in a belt right after his Orca melted around him? Even for a miner, that is off the derp scale.
3) Notice only one person was on the pod kill. Generally any Catalyst pilot will one shot a pod. If people wanted to whore a pod KM, they probably would have been in a fleet of noobships...actually, it would have been funny to see them all in noobships doing it . More likely, there was another ganker near by that didn't participate in the gank that bravely volunteered to go finish the job, since all the pilots involved in the Orca gank couldn't blast anything for 15 min while waiting on the GCC.

Yes, you probably should roll an alt and join us to learn a bit about game mechanics. Whether or not you RP depends on how much you enjoy harvesting tears from miners. For some reason, the RP element of the Order turns the rage knob up to 11.

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#23 - 2013-09-18 16:57:17 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
And here i tought the players couldnt get more wierd... So i guess this is one way to role play? Glad im not that nerdy..

You're new here, aren't you?
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#24 - 2013-09-18 17:00:00 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Raymond Bartlette wrote:
Bla Bla Bla... just bullshit, to extort every miner around and shoot to all who don't pay.

Btw. i'm fighting with New Order so anyone intrested in joining me, send me a msg in game.


This is now a prediction thread. How long until Raymond gives up? I predict 3 weeks.

Two weeks of effort, followed by the clock ticking down on his sub.
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-09-18 17:07:11 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Raymond Bartlette wrote:
Bla Bla Bla... just bullshit, to extort every miner around and shoot to all who don't pay.

Btw. i'm fighting with New Order so anyone intrested in joining me, send me a msg in game.


This is now a prediction thread. How long until Raymond gives up? I predict 3 weeks.

Two weeks of effort, followed by the clock ticking down on his sub.


He has already closed his anti-NO corp and made a pirate corp, so if you bet the under, you won!

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

minerbumping.com
K'Taulis
Free Lunch
#26 - 2013-09-18 17:10:42 UTC
Even in Roleplay terms I do not like the Idea of Paying 'Danegeld' to other players to continue to play a game I pay monthly for.

Now 10mil is fairly minor considering the cost involved in buying and outfitting a mining barge so it isn't the amout per se, it is wondering if I will have to pay not just once but once per 'New Order' member I encounter. It is also an objection to a particular part of 'The Code'.
- New Order territory is a safe space for suicide gankers. Miners are required to put aside their prejudices and treat gankers with respect.

- Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary.

So, I am paying 10mil to be able to mine but have to congratulate the person who blows up my 30mil investment anyway?
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-09-18 17:15:30 UTC
Soylent Jade wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Raymond Bartlette wrote:
Bla Bla Bla... just bullshit, to extort every miner around and shoot to all who don't pay.

Btw. i'm fighting with New Order so anyone intrested in joining me, send me a msg in game.


This is now a prediction thread. How long until Raymond gives up? I predict 3 weeks.

Two weeks of effort, followed by the clock ticking down on his sub.


He has already closed his anti-NO corp and made a pirate corp, so if you bet the under, you won!


I guess our work here is done then :)

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-09-18 17:26:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Soylent Jade
K'Taulis wrote:
Now 10mil is fairly minor considering the cost involved in buying and outfitting a mining barge so it isn't the amout per se, it is wondering if I will have to pay not just once but once per 'New Order' member I encounter. It is also an objection to a particular part of 'The Code'.


No, you only pay once per year. Part of the Code requires a bio update supporting it. This is how most of us rank and file knights know who has paid. I wouldn't get any ideas about a fake permit, though...that can earn you some extra attention if you are found out.

K'Taulis wrote:
- New Order territory is a safe space for suicide gankers. Miners are required to put aside their prejudices and treat gankers with respect.

- Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. So, I am paying 10mil to be able to mine but have to congratulate the person who blows up my 30mil investment anyway?


New Order knights won't blow you up once you have a permit, unless you are found violating the Code (typically being AFK if you are hailed). However, there are plenty of non-Order affiliated gankers that don't care about the Code and blow up miners just because.

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

minerbumping.com
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#29 - 2013-09-18 17:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Soylent Jade wrote:

New Order knights won't blow you up once you have a permit, unless you are found violating the Code (typically being AFK if you are hailed). However, there are plenty of non-Order affiliated gankers that don't care about the Code and blow up miners just because.

Me! Twisted
Well, not really. Because if you're following the general provisions of the Code, even if without a permit, you're typically well-protected from me by your very compliance with the Code.

Seriously; Anyone who gets barge-ganked by me is bad, and should feel bad. Bomber runs are a different matter entirely - those are actually executed under the aegis of a trained FC, and such deaths do not constitute 'Derp.' Usually.
K'Taulis
Free Lunch
#30 - 2013-09-18 17:35:22 UTC
Soylent Jade wrote:
K'Taulis wrote:
Now 10mil is fairly minor considering the cost involved in buying and outfitting a mining barge so it isn't the amout per se, it is wondering if I will have to pay not just once but once per 'New Order' member I encounter. It is also an objection to a particular part of 'The Code'.


No, you only pay once per year. Part of the Code requires a bio update supporting it. This is how most of us rank and file knights know who has paid. I wouldn't get any ideas about a fake permit, though...that can earn you some extra attention if you are found out.

K'Taulis wrote:
- New Order territory is a safe space for suicide gankers. Miners are required to put aside their prejudices and treat gankers with respect.

- Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. So, I am paying 10mil to be able to mine but have to congratulate the person who blows up my 30mil investment anyway?


New Order knights won't blow you up once you have a permit, unless you are found violating the Code (typically being AFK if you are hailed). However, there are plenty of non-Order affiliated gankers that don't care about the Code and blow up miners just because.


Nice to know there is a system in place :)
btw A polite and well worded response to my question kudos and thank you
Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-09-18 18:58:21 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I know you feel like the ice interdiction is over and it is perfectly fine to AFK mine again. The Goons are gone and have left behind an emptiness where the gankers used to loiter in station. But the New Order are zealots for the New Halaima Code of Conduct and are on duty 24/7. Knights are standing by to make sure your mining operation is code-compliant!

Sunday several mining operations were found to be out of complaince with the Code and interdiction efforts were made. Not having a permit is enough to be out of compliance with the code and subject to termination. But if there is one thing we in the New Order just can't stand its AFK mining:

http://code.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19651344
http://code.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19648565

Yes that is a 2 minute interval between forceable ejection from his Orca and when a mining implant removal surgeon arrived to claim the pod. A Hulk pilot's ship and pod were claimed the same way during that enforcement action.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tH7sx48izo

In all 3 Orcas were felled in very little time this day. Take it not as boasting, but as a object lesson in learning to care for your pilots by treating them as human beings and not as robots to be left to their toil. Purchase a New Order mining permit today! 10mil isk and good for all of hisec. If you mine, live by the New Halaima Code of Conduct and live life in New Eden... instead of on Facebook.


Your code is a farce. This is nothing more than a successful scam. You've engaged people with permits in the past. And i'm willing to bet my own time away from the game has not changed this fact. Typical Goonswarm Subsidiary bullshit.

You and your order know that if the rule of the game permitted us to we'd hunt you down to the ends of the earth. If we could link your accounts with null sec holdings we'd take every outpost you have you ******* terrorist trolls.

I love how they act all high and mighty when they're worse than the bubblegum i have to pull off my shoe sometimes.

James 315 was a long term member of Goonswarm and probably still is. You know how i feel about them? Weapons Hot.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#32 - 2013-09-18 19:04:05 UTC
Kuseka Adama wrote:
Your code is a farce. This is nothing more than a successful scam. You've engaged people with permits in the past. And i'm willing to bet my own time away from the game has not changed this fact. Typical Goonswarm Subsidiary bullshit.

You and your order know that if the rule of the game permitted us to we'd hunt you down to the ends of the earth. If we could link your accounts with null sec holdings we'd take every outpost you have you ******* terrorist trolls.

I love how they act all high and mighty when they're worse than the bubblegum i have to pull off my shoe sometimes.


You seem bumphurt.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-09-18 19:08:11 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Kuseka Adama wrote:
Your code is a farce. This is nothing more than a successful scam. You've engaged people with permits in the past. And i'm willing to bet my own time away from the game has not changed this fact. Typical Goonswarm Subsidiary bullshit.

You and your order know that if the rule of the game permitted us to we'd hunt you down to the ends of the earth. If we could link your accounts with null sec holdings we'd take every outpost you have you ******* terrorist trolls.

I love how they act all high and mighty when they're worse than the bubblegum i have to pull off my shoe sometimes.


You seem bumphurt.


I'm a carrier pilot with over 35 mill SP.

Bumphurt? come on you cant come back with something better? jeeze.
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-09-18 19:17:33 UTC
Kuseka Adama wrote:
I'm a carrier pilot with over 35 mill SP.



WOW...can I have your autograph? Exactly what rules are preventing you from hunting us down?

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

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Kuseka Adama
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-09-18 19:19:46 UTC
Soylent Jade wrote:
Kuseka Adama wrote:
I'm a carrier pilot with over 35 mill SP.



WOW...can I have your autograph?


Sure would you like the Five knucke version or Ten?

;P
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-09-18 19:20:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Kuseka Adama wrote:

Your code is a farce. This is nothing more than a successful scam. You've engaged people with permits in the past. And i'm willing to bet my own time away from the game has not changed this fact. Typical Goonswarm Subsidiary bullshit.

You and your order know that if the rule of the game permitted us to we'd hunt you down to the ends of the earth. If we could link your accounts with null sec holdings we'd take every outpost you have you ******* terrorist trolls.

I love how they act all high and mighty when they're worse than the bubblegum i have to pull off my shoe sometimes.

James 315 was a long term member of Goonswarm and probably still is. You know how i feel about them? Weapons Hot.


Let me get this straight. You think that NO are all members of Goonswarm, one of the wealthiest, most powerful alliances in New Eden, are secretly vigilantes who spend their nights extorting miners with bumpers and catalysts; and your plan, is to *take every outpost* that they have?

Good luck.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-09-18 19:29:09 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Kuseka Adama wrote:

Your code is a farce. This is nothing more than a successful scam. You've engaged people with permits in the past. And i'm willing to bet my own time away from the game has not changed this fact. Typical Goonswarm Subsidiary bullshit.

You and your order know that if the rule of the game permitted us to we'd hunt you down to the ends of the earth. If we could link your accounts with null sec holdings we'd take every outpost you have you ******* terrorist trolls.

I love how they act all high and mighty when they're worse than the bubblegum i have to pull off my shoe sometimes.

James 315 was a long term member of Goonswarm and probably still is. You know how i feel about them? Weapons Hot.


Let me get this straight. You think that NO are all members of Goonswarm, one of the wealthiest, most powerful alliances in New Eden, are secretly vigilantes who spend their nights extorting miners with bumpers and catalysts; and your plan, is to *take every outpost* that they have?

Good luck.


+1 internets for the "The Dark Knight" reference. I also didn't realize the Garoun Investment Bank was so powerful!

Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time

minerbumping.com
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-09-18 19:33:18 UTC
Soylent Jade wrote:
+1 internets for the "The Dark Knight" reference. I also didn't realize the Garoun Investment Bank was so powerful!


The power of the Garoun Investment Bank is only matched by the power of players who are taking a break from the game.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#39 - 2013-09-18 19:58:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Kuseka Adama wrote:

James 315 was a long term member of Goonswarm and probably still is. You know how i feel about them? Weapons Hot.

You're not the first to say that; you won't be the last.
The New Order remains.


admiral root wrote:

You seem bumphurt.

I see what you did there.
Cool
7'62 SKS
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-09-18 19:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: 7'62 SKS
Soylent Jade wrote:

1) Hedion University = NPC corp, so no war dec. Having a wardec would kinda negate the need to suicide gank, anyway.


Oh. Didn't bother to look because didn't care enough.

Quote:

2) What moron would go AFK in a pod in a belt right after his Orca melted around him? Even for a miner, that is off the derp scale.


I dunno...miners can be pretty dumb. Maybe he just stomped off in a rage. Still doesn't answer why the ganker waited 2 minutes before popping the pod. Late to the party? *shrug*

Quote:

3) Notice only one person was on the pod kill. Generally any Catalyst pilot will one shot a pod. If people wanted to ***** a pod KM, they probably would have been in a fleet of noobships...actually, it would have been funny to see them all in noobships doing it . More likely, there was another ganker near by that didn't participate in the gank that bravely volunteered to go finish the job, since all the pilots involved in the Orca gank couldn't blast anything for 15 min while waiting on the GCC.

Yes, you probably should roll an alt and join us to learn a bit about game mechanics. Whether or not you RP depends on how much you enjoy harvesting tears from miners. For some reason, the RP element of the Order turns the rage knob up to 11.


Oh. Didn't bother to look because didn't care enough.

As for joining with an alt "to learn game mechanics"... lol. Just because I was stoned when I quick-replied and don't usually think in terms of "high sec 'leet PVP" doesn't mean I don't get the game mechanics you're working with. Where I pvp, holding someone's pod for KM whoring is just courtesy.

You fly -10 low-SP alts in from low/null after a neutral alt positions for a warpin. You keep moving because faction police, and any player can shoot you. Once you pull the trigger, CONCORD in a few seconds depending on system sec, and whether they've been drawn away. You warp the pod off, which CONCORD/faction police won't pester. Is that about the size of it? Guess I don't need to join. It just sounds like a lot of effort for the result, while at the same time being boring. Kinda like mining, come to think of it. But the RP definitely tilts the scale onto the "oh hell no" side for me.
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