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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#341 - 2013-09-18 15:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Tel Perion wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
[quote=samualvimes]look it up, buddy, its one or two comments up there, CCP also discussed about it, but people like you put it on hold like all the good stuff they think about, because if they add too much they fear they loose players because you babies can not handle more content


I generally don't feel the need to post on the forums but I occasionally make an exception for a truly appalling poster.

Harry, you're a douche of the highest order. At worst you're on your own (and have been posting with alts) or at best you have one person who's with you on this. That means that you're in opposition to the rest of the players. Just in this thread you're opposed by a lot of different people. Your assertion that there are only 5 people who oppose you just goes to show how little you grasp.

You say this will be content but it won't. In no way will it add to the spiders web of interactions within EVE which means it won't be part of the game at all. No interactions, no losses, enormous expense of CCP dev time and therefore money. Why should CCP use valuable developer resource to build something just for you when you can build it yourself. Saying "I don't want to build it myself. I want CCP to do everything for me and make me and my ship safe because I'm too scared to use it in actual PVP" (paraphrased) simply isn't enough of a reason for them to do it. They will, in the end, use their development resources to either build what they think is best and/or what the majority of the community wants them to.

That isn't ANY of your proposals that I've read.

You say you're some elite pvp guy who's been picking on the goons? Well, from what I can see you've been killing pods and noob ships in a cov ops cloaked ship. Well done, Harry. That's soooo l33t. Try picking on a target that might actually shoot back and then come and tell the world you're a PvPer.

In conclusion: You're a douche, Harry.


I'm sniping away their haulers infront of mittanigrad, try it out then talk about it, its all guarded area, you got no clue

a basic matchmaking system can be programmed over the weekend

I know new content scares you, thats your biggest fear, the new and unknown

blocked for your wording by the way
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#342 - 2013-09-18 15:32:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
funny that you guys create one alt after another, just to talk to me

I'm fighting against 5000 goons, why would you think I care about 5 forum trolls creating an army of alts? Lol
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#343 - 2013-09-18 15:47:00 UTC
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#344 - 2013-09-18 16:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#345 - 2013-09-18 16:57:34 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already



No you didn't just insane gibberish that makes charles manson seem normal
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#346 - 2013-09-18 17:02:42 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already



Firstly I think you'll find I am noones alt (from your earlier post)

Secondly I am rather proud of having spent less than a month in Hi-sec since I joined the game (check my employment history)

The mechanics of the game lend them selves well to competitions. BUT INSTANCED ARENAS WOULDN'T WORK AS PART OF THE GAME!

I AM a competitive gamer. I play WoT, I play DotA, I play CS:S. Hell I even play PvP Artemis.

I do not want something that breaks the sandbox in one of the most perfect PvP games around.

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#347 - 2013-09-18 17:21:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
samualvimes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already



Firstly I think you'll find I am noones alt (from your earlier post)

Secondly I am rather proud of having spent less than a month in Hi-sec since I joined the game (check my employment history)

The mechanics of the game lend them selves well to competitions. BUT INSTANCED ARENAS WOULDN'T WORK AS PART OF THE GAME!

I AM a competitive gamer. I play WoT, I play DotA, I play CS:S. Hell I even play PvP Artemis.

I do not want something that breaks the sandbox in one of the most perfect PvP games around.



I'm not talking about the metagame competition, that works fine in this game, the longtime motivation is good

but the shortime motivation is missing a lot, thats why arenas and stuff would make sense, the longtime metagame would be much more enjoyable if you have the possiblility to get some instant action when you want it as well

eve is capable of providing 1000 vs. 1000 fights, but they only do it every few month when some alliances decide to fight

this is unused potential, you need to give the gamers the possibility to access big fights whenever they want

why would it break the sandbox game? its seperated from it, and a completely different experience

people would play some arenafighst and then go on with the metagame, would work perfectly together
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#348 - 2013-09-18 17:22:44 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
samualvimes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already



Firstly I think you'll find I am noones alt (from your earlier post)

Secondly I am rather proud of having spent less than a month in Hi-sec since I joined the game (check my employment history)

The mechanics of the game lend them selves well to competitions. BUT INSTANCED ARENAS WOULDN'T WORK AS PART OF THE GAME!

I AM a competitive gamer. I play WoT, I play DotA, I play CS:S. Hell I even play PvP Artemis.

I do not want something that breaks the sandbox in one of the most perfect PvP games around.



I'm not talking about the metagame competition, that works fine in this game, the longtime motivation is good

but the shortime motivation is missing a lot, thats why arenas and stuff would make sense, the longtime metagame would be much more enjoyable if you have the possiblility to get some instant action when you want it as well

eve is capable of providing 1000 vs. 1000 fights, but they only do it every few month when some alliances decide to fight

this is unused potential, you need to give the gamers the possibility to access big fights whenever they want


The problem is why bother with the metagame when you have instant action. Why go on friday night roams?

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#349 - 2013-09-18 17:24:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
samualvimes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
samualvimes wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
Stop bringing emotions and pride into this...

Lay out the facts and it will be yay or nay... end of story...


I'm a competitive gamer, and i want this... thast fact proof and guarantee all together

sure those highsec miners responding here, they got no clue about what competitive gamers want

its impossible to explain to them, they do not have the mindset of competition

I can not help them, they need to play more games, and find out on their own

just read through my comments, I explained everything in detail already



Firstly I think you'll find I am noones alt (from your earlier post)

Secondly I am rather proud of having spent less than a month in Hi-sec since I joined the game (check my employment history)

The mechanics of the game lend them selves well to competitions. BUT INSTANCED ARENAS WOULDN'T WORK AS PART OF THE GAME!

I AM a competitive gamer. I play WoT, I play DotA, I play CS:S. Hell I even play PvP Artemis.

I do not want something that breaks the sandbox in one of the most perfect PvP games around.



I'm not talking about the metagame competition, that works fine in this game, the longtime motivation is good

but the shortime motivation is missing a lot, thats why arenas and stuff would make sense, the longtime metagame would be much more enjoyable if you have the possiblility to get some instant action when you want it as well

eve is capable of providing 1000 vs. 1000 fights, but they only do it every few month when some alliances decide to fight

this is unused potential, you need to give the gamers the possibility to access big fights whenever they want


The problem is why bother with the metagame when you have instant action. Why go on friday night roams?


because the metagame offers a complete different experience, you don't get that in arenas, thats also your main argument, the only thing you guys don't want to see, that those two things could work together

FW did also not change the metagame in nullsec, some play this some play that, some will play both, its fine because it offers all a different type of experience
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#350 - 2013-09-18 17:27:36 UTC


Yes it did. I know a lot of null sec people who have moved into FW because it's easy to find PvP. It does however still have losses.

Why do YOU want this again? Not what you think other people want. what are YOUR reasons?

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#351 - 2013-09-18 17:40:05 UTC
samualvimes wrote:


Yes it did. I know a lot of null sec people who have moved into FW because it's easy to find PvP. It does however still have losses.

Why do YOU want this again? Not what you think other people want. what are YOUR reasons?


I want more action on a daily basis, i can not fully enjoy the game because i would need some hard action at the beginning and then move over to do slower phased gameplay each time I login... the action provided in FW and in nullsec or ever other gamemdoe all have too much hurdles... i would enjoy the game much more if i could trash some ships the first 30 minutes in the game in some arenas without any loss of isk, and then just go on with doing other stuff

i would enjoy the slower phased tactical gameplay in nullsec much more after that, if i have the action at the start i could go on much more relaxed with the rest of the game...

I want something to happen at the start, if it did, i can enjoy the rest much better, this instant action part is missing, the slowphased gameplay is all cool, I think its holdig back a lot of gamers to experience eve, arenas could be the door opener to the rest of the game, that would work much better then the beginning of the game now
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#352 - 2013-09-18 17:55:43 UTC
Quote:
the action provided in FW and in nullsec or ever other gamemdoe all have too much hurdles...


What are these hurdles? My experience so far in the Gallente-Caldari war has been pretty much instant action all the time.

.

samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#353 - 2013-09-18 17:59:22 UTC
Roime wrote:
Quote:
the action provided in FW and in nullsec or ever other gamemdoe all have too much hurdles...


What are these hurdles? My experience so far in the Gallente-Caldari war has been pretty much instant action all the time.




Can't agree more

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#354 - 2013-09-18 18:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Roime wrote:
Quote:
the action provided in FW and in nullsec or ever other gamemdoe all have too much hurdles...


What are these hurdles? My experience so far in the Gallente-Caldari war has been pretty much instant action all the time.



you are just searching for the easy kill, like explained your killboard shows it, thats not what I'm looking for...

competitive gameplay fights are even challanges, your 90%/10% K/D shows you just take the easy targets

you will never understand what I mean, trust me that

isk and shiploss holds back everybody to play the game competitively

here everybody just is searching for the safe kill, no risk at all, taking risk in pvp you only have disadvantages because of the isk loss

you don't want to understand it, thats fine but anoying

i understand the sandbox gameplay, but you don't want to understand competitive gaming, you just keep explaining the advantages of the sandbox, we all know that, however this topic is about competitive gaming and creating a competitive gaming environemnt

it has nothing to do with sandbox gameplay, where you get fights closer to real world fights where taking risk is not the good thing because you might die, taking competitive challanges is something completely different
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#355 - 2013-09-18 18:25:54 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Roime wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I'm soloing goonswarm, 90% of my kills are goons in VFK area, my K/D shows I'm winning every day, the challange and risk i take is close to 50/50... I'm playing 1 vs. 5000, you play 30 vs. 1

you just shoot inferiour players, you loose 1 ship a month because you don't take any risk, not try harder opponents

it is like it is... thats why you don't understand competitive gaming, you are no competitive gamer, but thanks for bumping the thread again


:D

You aren't actually for real, are you?

When you run out of arguments, you make stuff up.





you can ask any competitive gamer out there, they will tell you the same

its the main reason why the best tennis pro's play against the best to train, they want to keep the competition up

you would just play tennis against kids and then tell yourselve: look how great I am, I won 1000 times...

I play against 5000 goons solo to assure I get the challange I want




Yup because killing cyno frigs and lazy T1 haulers with a bomber or a catalyst (remind this one can push over 700dps, it's battleship dps heh) its of course, the proof of your "competitive" skills

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#356 - 2013-09-18 18:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Roime wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

I'm soloing goonswarm, 90% of my kills are goons in VFK area, my K/D shows I'm winning every day, the challange and risk i take is close to 50/50... I'm playing 1 vs. 5000, you play 30 vs. 1

you just shoot inferiour players, you loose 1 ship a month because you don't take any risk, not try harder opponents

it is like it is... thats why you don't understand competitive gaming, you are no competitive gamer, but thanks for bumping the thread again


:D

You aren't actually for real, are you?

When you run out of arguments, you make stuff up.





you can ask any competitive gamer out there, they will tell you the same

its the main reason why the best tennis pro's play against the best to train, they want to keep the competition up

you would just play tennis against kids and then tell yourselve: look how great I am, I won 1000 times...

I play against 5000 goons solo to assure I get the challange I want




Yup because killing cyno frigs and lazy T1 haulers with a bomber or a catalyst (remind this one can push over 700dps, it's battleship dps heh) its of course, the proof of your "competitive" skills


you don't understand much of this game, not a damn thing

blocked
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#357 - 2013-09-18 18:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
they just understand the sanbox

however they don't understand competitive gaming

they just won't get it, they don't understand that it is two different things, really funny

they want to press competitive gaming in a sandbox, and don't understand that it has to be seperated from it

rediculous, 3 year olds would get it much faster
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#358 - 2013-09-18 18:34:13 UTC
supernova ranger wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
That's not proof harry try again. Oh and still afraid to fight me?


I'll fight you.. if you come outta nullsec and actual go to a system I can make it too



Just get out of concord safety and go to null, no boundaries, just the good old way: warp at 0 at the sun or planet "x" and go for it.

There's more of true 1v1 fights than you think in null, even in between blues just because we're bored without real targets but just trolls with stabs and cloaks claiming pvp opness and knowledge.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#359 - 2013-09-18 18:35:41 UTC
samualvimes wrote:
I really am starting to believe that Harry might actually be the alt of someone.


Raising all the worst ideas in the game one at a time so that they can be publically and openly shot down to try and destroy the idea once and for all.



Like someone from EA? Lol

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#360 - 2013-09-18 18:42:09 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
blocked



Help yourself Lol

Start by actually pvp then come here tells us more about your awesome experience.

Except blahblah and rabble same crap again and again, pretend you're someone exceptional and your ideas too good for us, you could also make yourself a favor and us by the same time, and move on to some competitive game fight competitive players.
Why are you still here? -because you're too bad to fight competitive players in whatever competitive game?

You're just a troll, an amusing one I must say.

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