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Odyssey Tempest?

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Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#1 - 2013-06-24 05:27:04 UTC
Back in the F&I threads when people were bouncing ideas off Rise and discussing the new battleships, there was a lot of hate directed at the new Tempest. Now that things have panned out a bit...is it still ****? Did anyone find a use for it? I've been combing pretty much every forum even tangentially related to eve, and it's like it doesn't exist. Lots of discussions on everything else, but it seems like nobody is using the Tempest. So what's the verdict?

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Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-24 05:43:33 UTC
What's the point if the Typhoon can do the same, but better?
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#3 - 2013-06-24 06:33:28 UTC
That's what I was afraid of. Well ****.

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David Kir
Hotbirds
#4 - 2013-06-24 11:24:42 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Back in the F&I threads when people were bouncing ideas off Rise and discussing the new battleships, there was a lot of hate directed at the new Tempest. Now that things have panned out a bit...is it still ****? Did anyone find a use for it? I've been combing pretty much every forum even tangentially related to eve, and it's like it doesn't exist. Lots of discussions on everything else, but it seems like nobody is using the Tempest. So what's the verdict?


I've given it a couple runs trough lowsec, with 800 ACs and a shield buffer.
I's agile and fast enough to work in solo/small gangs, and it's still good as a neut/utility boat.

It's still not a proper BS, but fly it like an over-sized BC and it works pretty fine.
I don't really know how it performs in PVE, but i still don't see it being any better than a mael.

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Ned Plantagenet
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-24 12:13:45 UTC
I have 2 tempest one for armor fleets and one for shield. I miss the old typhoon though torp and guns lol. Sure get a navy photon but that's pricy for PvP.

I like the tempest also cause of clear skies lol
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#6 - 2013-06-24 15:17:24 UTC
The Typhoon is cheaper, has more tank and does more damage. Which is why everyone Typhoons instead of being a Tempest in a tea pot.

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Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-24 15:34:43 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Garresh wrote:
Back in the F&I threads when people were bouncing ideas off Rise and discussing the new battleships, there was a lot of hate directed at the new Tempest. Now that things have panned out a bit...is it still ****? Did anyone find a use for it? I've been combing pretty much every forum even tangentially related to eve, and it's like it doesn't exist. Lots of discussions on everything else, but it seems like nobody is using the Tempest. So what's the verdict?


I've given it a couple runs trough lowsec, with 800 ACs and a shield buffer.
I's agile and fast enough to work in solo/small gangs, and it's still good as a neut/utility boat.

It's still not a proper BS, but fly it like an over-sized BC and it works pretty fine.
I don't really know how it performs in PVE, but i still don't see it being any better than a mael.



Confirming that the Tempest is useless for PvE, it just hasn't got any tank.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-24 15:40:46 UTC
Tempest is as tempest does.

Its not that CCP cant think of anything cool to do with it, they just cant be bothered.

Why fix a ship no one cares about anyway? :P

new tempest is like the old tempest, jack of no trades and master of none of them either LOL

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Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#9 - 2013-06-24 18:01:45 UTC
I'm not even sure it can be considered a jack of all trades...typhoon is more versatile, and can actually shield tank now too. Bleh and here I was hoping...

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Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-24 19:09:43 UTC
Tornado, Maelstrom, and Typhoon basically does better of a job than much of what the Tempest can do.
Maybe someone will get creative with it and surprise someone.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-06-24 19:55:03 UTC
The Tempest has somewhat more EHP, better alpha, and a lot more powergrid. Fitting 1400mms on a 'pest requires some fitting compromises. It's pretty much impossible on a 'phoon (almost 4000 grid deficit just from the guns with all V skills)

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#12 - 2013-06-25 07:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
^ That place is taken by maelstrom and or tornado,and abbadon and apoc(pre changes)...being able to fit guns(only thing that ship can use unlike phoon that can choose) isn't rly something to write home about,especially if you are last choice for using said guns!

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-25 08:15:18 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
The Tempest has somewhat more EHP, better alpha, and a lot more powergrid. Fitting 1400mms on a 'pest requires some fitting compromises. It's pretty much impossible on a 'phoon (almost 4000 grid deficit just from the guns with all V skills)


1400's on a phoon Sad gone are the days

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Scrindle Kavees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-25 08:30:02 UTC
Anyone remember when you could camp gates with a 1400 'pest and 6x damage mods in the low slots? Sensor boosters and light shield tank in the mids.

Ah, good times. You didn't need tackle.
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#15 - 2013-06-25 11:40:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ynot Eyob
Malcanis wrote:
The Tempest has somewhat more EHP, better alpha, and a lot more powergrid. Fitting 1400mms on a 'pest requires some fitting compromises. It's pretty much impossible on a 'phoon (almost 4000 grid deficit just from the guns with all V skills)


But why not just use a tornado then :/
1400mm the drones really doesnt matter, the speed on the tornado is like 600m/s more at least to keep range, Alpha is about the same and its cheaper.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-06-25 12:57:11 UTC
Scrindle Kavees wrote:
Anyone remember when you could camp gates with a 1400 'pest and 6x damage mods in the low slots? Sensor boosters and light shield tank in the mids.

Ah, good times. You didn't need tackle.


I remember these days very well and with a good reason to.

The day i got in my tempest and fit 1400s was the same day...

...Tracking values and formula was introduced.

Tracking was pretty much introduced to stop the aforementioned gate instakilla and the gankageddon, literally killing all ship types effortlessly.

The pest went from top dog, to smelly old dog in a matter of hours *le sigh* (1400s were given the worst tracking of any turret in the game at the time)

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Xander Det89
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#17 - 2013-06-27 11:32:14 UTC
So many non-OP changes could have been made... but hey lets stick to lamepest. 7th Turret to actually give it an edge on raw gunnery? Nah... single greater damage bonus with falloff or tracking?... Nah, lets just keep it as an expensive oversized BC.
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
#18 - 2013-06-27 12:46:17 UTC
Xander Det89 wrote:
So many non-OP changes could have been made... but hey lets stick to lamepest. 7th Turret to actually give it an edge on raw gunnery? Nah... single greater damage bonus with falloff or tracking?... Nah, lets just keep it as an expensive oversized BC.


And what's wrong with an oversized BC? The Tempest is good for when you feel like an AC tornado would do the job but you'd better have more tank, drones and heavy neuts.
ArcticPrism
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-09-18 16:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: ArcticPrism
What roles can a Tempest perform that any other ship doesn't do better at? I've been trying to think of things I can do with the ship that would be interesting that I can't just do better with a Typhoon or some other ship. It would have been nice if it got improvements like every other battleship did. Even things like nano Tempest got hit by te nerf. Blasers were buffed a lot as well so using null ammo to hit one isn't that big of a deal.
Darling Hassasin
Parental Control
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#20 - 2013-09-19 07:18:16 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
Scrindle Kavees wrote:
Anyone remember when you could camp gates with a 1400 'pest and 6x damage mods in the low slots? Sensor boosters and light shield tank in the mids.

Ah, good times. You didn't need tackle.


I remember these days very well and with a good reason to.

The day i got in my tempest and fit 1400s was the same day...

...Tracking values and formula was introduced.

Tracking was pretty much introduced to stop the aforementioned gate instakilla and the gankageddon, literally killing all ship types effortlessly.

The pest went from top dog, to smelly old dog in a matter of hours *le sigh* (1400s were given the worst tracking of any turret in the game at the time)




You were unlucky not to have chosen the gank geddon instead. That was still effective all the way up to the introduction of the stacking penalty for dmg mods...
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