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[proposal] Make PI taxes better

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Caden La'Rue
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-05 03:02:15 UTC
While I feel that 10% tax on high-sec PI is bad enough if it were accurate, I feel that it's worse that the "10% tax" is actually closer to a 15-20% tax.

Example: Consumer Electronics cost 900 isk to export which means the assumed value is 9000 isk per unit. In reality, Consumer Electronics are valued around 4000-6000 a unit, which essentially means we are paying 900 isk per 5000 isk of value (18%).

While many suggest making the high sec tax rate lower, I'd like to suggest keeping the tax rate the same but having the value of the goods being imported and exported actually updated daily. Use the global average as the taxable amount and tax rates will actually be appropriate to the goods.
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-05 03:24:15 UTC
The problem is that we told ccp this kind of thing would happen back when they first imposed these really high taxes on PI goods aaaaand they ignored us.
Caden La'Rue
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-09-05 07:54:09 UTC
Omega Flames wrote:
The problem is that we told ccp this kind of thing would happen back when they first imposed these really high taxes on PI goods aaaaand they ignored us.


Let's hope they quit ignoring us then? ;)
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-09-07 14:40:01 UTC
Yup many PI setups are uneconomical because of the fixed tax rate. There's already estimated prices in-game so if they could be used to derive taxes that'd be great.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-09-07 21:13:33 UTC
Go to lowesec.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-09-08 04:45:53 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Go to lowesec.

this, many lowsec systems acfually have very good taxrates, yes on PLAYER pocos, because some corps use them as a secondary income.

PI resource levels are better out there too.
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-08 06:06:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Flames
There are 26 PI products (out of 53 P2, P3, and P4 products) that are unprofitable to make ONLY due to the cost of taxes on a highsec planet...I'd say that's pretty broken that you MUST make 26 PI products at a POCO but that is afterall just my opinion.
Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-09-10 03:22:10 UTC
How about faction standings with the POCO owned faction affecting the tax rate?

Better standings with faction lowers base tax.
Adunh Slavy
#9 - 2013-09-12 06:25:51 UTC
Let players own POCOs every where. The lower resource amounts in high sec, plus the additional cost and resources required to defend them will take care of things.

Let the market work, no more CCP price fixing.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

umbora
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-17 22:29:37 UTC
There are different levels of risk that go along with the different areas that POCOs are in. High sec has the lowest risk possible and thus has the lowest possible returns. Low sec has slightly more risk to it and you can make more isk out in low sec. and null sec and WH space offer the best planets and as such you get the best isk out of them. If you want to make more isk which is what is sounds like you are wanting then you should go to the low sec or null sec/ WH space and take the risk to make the isk.

High sec is the place that isk is made in eve if you want it you have to go get it.


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