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An intervention, for the best of New Eden!

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Kaizoe Ocshtau
Hellish Inc
Hellish Incorporated
#1 - 2013-09-15 11:04:38 UTC
As I have read topics here on GalNet over the past week or so, I have seen one very aggressive person posting over and over about evils that it sees in one of the empires here in New Eden.
After reading many of these posts, a few resent once stuck in my mind, as this person seemed to be in such a calm rage (see is conducting herself good, and has yet to curse anyone out, what I have seen) now that it's starting to break down and give very concerned grammatical error, it might be due to a malfunctioning translation unit, but seeing how much hate this person have over this one, not so insignificant, thing, it could just be that it is in such a stage of rage now that it is just writing down its disjointed thought of anger and hate that it misses basic grammar.

So, I am pleading now to all and any living being here in New Eden that we got to get Diana Kim committed.
She needs to get the best psychiatric help a Capsuler can get. I have been in contact with a few people I know and see if there is any insane asylum that could take her, and I'm sure that we can easily find the best shrink in the cluster, and pay for Diana Kim's bills.
I have the contact information to some of the best psychologist in the Federation that would happily take her.
There is one Yooslef Mangle that is very keen on seeing her, and I have heard nothing but good about him ...until some rumours about non-Gallentian patience of his, but I'm sure it's nothing.

So, please, for the sake of everyone's sanity, lets get Diana Kim committed to a psykward as she clearly has some issues with reality.

I will accept donations for her medical bills ...which is not a scam at all, it's totally legit, it will all be for the mental health of Diana Kim.
Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient
Electus Matari
#2 - 2013-09-15 11:46:07 UTC
While Ms. Kim may have her issues, she's far from being the only Capsuleer with a fanatical devotion to an ideal. Furthermore, you do not have the authority to have her, or any other capsuleer for that matter, committed. None of us have.

Like it or not, unless CONCORD intervenes by means of revoking a pilot's licence, the only Authority a pilot is ultimately subject to is their own. They may choose to recognise other sources of authority, but are not truly bound by them.
Kaizoe Ocshtau
Hellish Inc
Hellish Incorporated
#3 - 2013-09-15 12:03:09 UTC
She seems to be going beyond any devotion I have ever seen, and there are many sign of her starting to slip.

I have seen many threads of Amarr and Minmatar having a strong devotion to their causes, but I do not think I have seen someone be so against either the Federation or the State like she is. And I would really question anyone's sanity for being downright hateful against the State as they went and did their thing after the Federation acted quite extreme to finding out that, gasp, a corporation was hiding things to get an advantage!

But this is not a political topic, this is all about me getting mo... I mean... this is all about how I want to help a poor soul who clearly is going off the deep end.
If you have followed her, I am sure you have seen that she can keep her composure at most times, but I have seen a few posts of her where I am unsure of what she is trying to say, and it might just be that she is writing words at random in hopes of it meaning something.

So this is a plead that we might have to tell CONCORD that she might not be fit for piloting ships ...and maybe fill out my wallet a bit, someone got to pat that bill for her ... I am doing this for her best, and not to get donations that I will use for myself, saying it will go to her bills.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#4 - 2013-09-15 16:51:55 UTC
Your best bet Pilot Ocshtau would be to simply fly to the usual systems where she and her Falcon flying associate live and take matters into your own hands by blowing them from the skies and podding them. Repeatedly. This is your only recourse.

It won't do a thing to change Kim's insanity but, it will cost her isk and inconvenience. It will likely also make you feel a bit better. This is truly all we can inflict upon another capsuleer. As Pilot Darkfyre pointed out, anything beyond that is at the sole discretion of CONCORD.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-09-15 17:19:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
When there are hundreds of capsuleers who have access to privately owned Titans able to raze entire worlds if the CONCORD firmware failsafes went down for no other reason than just because they can, you're worried about the thoughts of a single capsuleer like Diana Kim who due to their social ineptitude, lack of leadership and inability to command are stuck in the State Protectorate Non-Pod Corporation?

Your error, Mr. Ocshtau, is taking them seriously such as you have here. Instead, what you should have recognized, is that much like a child who deliberately breaks their toys so they can get some attention, Diana Kim issues her nonsensical rants in public so she can pretend she's not a woefully incompetent, irrelevant, and inept human being who is an abject failure at life by getting attention from others irrespective if it's positive or negative.

If all that they have in life is to play the fool in public to gain attention in order to satisfy the shattered remnants of their self-esteem, then let them, but you don't ever have to take them seriously because such a pathetic state of existence is no doubt punishment enough for them.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Kaizoe Ocshtau
Hellish Inc
Hellish Incorporated
#6 - 2013-09-16 00:16:13 UTC
I am not taking her subject matter as serious, it is the was way she is presenting it that is that is the worry, as she seems to be unravelling. There is clear signs that she is starting to loose more and more cards from her deck.
As for CONCORD, it could be a good idea to make them take notice that pilot Kim might not be all there. It would be the best for her if we could get her in to a nice little padded room before she is trying to ram an ship in to a Gallente station (which would be hilarious to see her try without being able to disable the failsafe that makes us seemingly bounce off stations and ships).
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#7 - 2013-09-16 03:50:49 UTC
Someone's come late to the ball.

Yes, we know about Kim's issues. People have attempted to help her in a number of ways. CONCORD will do nothing to intervene.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Confliktus
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-09-16 19:23:26 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
When there are hundreds of capsuleers who have access to privately owned Titans able to raze entire worlds if the CONCORD firmware failsafes went down for no other reason than just because they can, you're worried about the thoughts of a single capsuleer like Diana Kim who due to their social ineptitude, lack of leadership and inability to command are stuck in the State Protectorate Non-Pod Corporation?

Your error, Mr. Ocshtau, is taking them seriously such as you have here. Instead, what you should have recognized, is that much like a child who deliberately breaks their toys so they can get some attention, Diana Kim issues her nonsensical rants in public so she can pretend she's not a woefully incompetent, irrelevant, and inept human being who is an abject failure at life by getting attention from others irrespective if it's positive or negative.

If all that they have in life is to play the fool in public to gain attention in order to satisfy the shattered remnants of their self-esteem, then let them, but you don't ever have to take them seriously because such a pathetic state of existence is no doubt punishment enough for them.


Blunt honesty .. refreshing.

Miss Gesakaarin... you never sounded handsomer in such a reply if such a thing was possible i would very much enjoy your company for a drink and a conversation .
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-09-16 20:51:16 UTC
Personally, if she is truly happy the way she is, then why bother?

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-09-17 04:25:38 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Personally, if she is truly happy the way she is, then why bother?


I do not think she is happy, though, Fred. Nor do I think our friend is correct.

Diana is a person who has some past tragedy or tragedies. Something that has embittered her. She wants to talk, to speak, to have her words taken seriously.

Being what we are, we are not often very interested in words until they are backed with violence. So she become angry and rages because it is the only way that she can communicate where we will truly notice her. Somewhere, she has likely asked for someone to listen. Someone who will understand her anger at a root level. Someone who maybe will not agree with her, but will not blame her for her own rage. Someone who was not there when she asked nicely, quietly, and meekly.

In a way, her rage is almost comical. Still, I think it would be worth listening. I again will offer to her that I do perform confidential confessions for a living. Even for non-Amarr who just want to get something off their chests, I will cross constellations to hear.

She is certainly not happy, though. Anger is a drink of no substance. You can pour more and more down your throat, but you will never be satisfied by sating your anger. She will not find peace, solace, or answers in her hate. What she needs, more than anything, is understanding.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#11 - 2013-09-17 04:51:36 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
Somewhere, she has likely asked for someone to listen. Someone who will understand her anger at a root level. Someone who maybe will not agree with her, but will not blame her for her own rage. Someone who was not there when she asked nicely, quietly, and meekly.


Again, no. People have spent hundreds of hours attempting to help Captain Kim.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-09-17 06:38:11 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
Somewhere, she has likely asked for someone to listen. Someone who will understand her anger at a root level. Someone who maybe will not agree with her, but will not blame her for her own rage. Someone who was not there when she asked nicely, quietly, and meekly.


You can see the scar across my face, I assume? What you cannot see is the severed tip of the smallest digit on one of my hands.

I asked. I listened. I offered.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2013-09-17 12:15:14 UTC
Kaizoe Ocshtau wrote:
She seems to be going beyond any devotion I have ever seen



Then you have seen nothing.

**Vherokior **

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#14 - 2013-09-17 13:13:09 UTC
This topic makes me chuckle.

Even as an enemy of the State, Diana and I have shared words before and I find her nature entirely refreshing. Her opinion mirrors those of the citizens of the State, the outcry of their raised nature, and their strong desire to hold onto their ideals enough to be met with proper recognition for where they succeed.

The problem with the lot of you is that when such ideals succeed, they're not in the fine hippy image you desire amongst the immortal crowd or just the crowds in general.

Space is dark.

Wake up and embrace that.

Nothing is wrong with Diana Kim. Her views are entirely warranted.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-09-17 13:45:37 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
This topic makes me chuckle.

Even as an enemy of the State, Diana and I have shared words before and I find her nature entirely refreshing. Her opinion mirrors those of the citizens of the State, the outcry of their raised nature, and their strong desire to hold onto their ideals enough to be met with proper recognition for where they succeed.

The problem with the lot of you is that when such ideals succeed, they're not in the fine hippy image you desire amongst the immortal crowd or just the crowds in general.

Space is dark.

Wake up and embrace that.

Nothing is wrong with Diana Kim. Her views are entirely warranted.


You two should go out. It would be like two special and unique snowflakes, forever intertwined, falling from the heavens in perfect union.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#16 - 2013-09-17 14:13:07 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:
This topic makes me chuckle.

Even as an enemy of the State, Diana and I have shared words before and I find her nature entirely refreshing. Her opinion mirrors those of the citizens of the State, the outcry of their raised nature, and their strong desire to hold onto their ideals enough to be met with proper recognition for where they succeed.

The problem with the lot of you is that when such ideals succeed, they're not in the fine hippy image you desire amongst the immortal crowd or just the crowds in general.

Space is dark.

Wake up and embrace that.

Nothing is wrong with Diana Kim. Her views are entirely warranted.


You two should go out. It would be like two special and unique snowflakes, forever intertwined, falling from the heavens in perfect union.


Trading gunfire the entire way down?

Appealing, although I don't think Miss Diana desires that within her choice of lover...

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-09-17 14:24:25 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:


Trading gunfire the entire way down?

Appealing, although I don't think Miss Diana desires that within her choice of lover...


You could always preposition her you know? Maybe she needs someone like you right now, to show her someone out there in the grim, deep, darkness of space actually cares.

You might be surprised.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#18 - 2013-09-17 14:49:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:


Trading gunfire the entire way down?

Appealing, although I don't think Miss Diana desires that within her choice of lover...


You could always preposition her you know? Maybe she needs someone like you right now, to show her someone out there in the grim, deep, darkness of space actually cares.

You might be surprised.

I guess it isn't worth hiding then; I do find her stubborn, bold, profoundly-proud, full of fire and spite ways cute and even a little attractive. Even when she's fussing that unless you're Caldari, you can't relate.

I find that fussing equally adorable.

I really do wonder when was the last time someone met that girl on her level, at gunpoint or more intimately so...

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-09-17 15:22:03 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:

I guess it isn't worth hiding then; I do find her stubborn, bold, profoundly-proud, full of fire and spite ways cute and even a little attractive. Even when she's fussing that unless you're Caldari, you can't relate.

I find that fussing equally adorable.

I really do wonder when was the last time someone met that girl on her level, at gunpoint or more intimately so...


Perhaps you are more alike than you think.

You both remind me of the qualities I admire in my Syrikos Hounds. Loyal. Obedient. Accepting of the requirements of authority. Yet, when divorced from the strong hands of their master upon their leashes they become wild and prone to howl at the moon in rage and fury. Some believe them to be beyond saving at such a point, worthy only to be put down, but they do not understand that every hound needs a master to show them both affection and a guiding hand for such is their nature.

Your differences are only superficial to me. You both share the same pains of having been divorced from the requirements of obedience and authority to a figure you might be said to respect. If you share the same desires then why not desire each other?

Certainly, it might be said, the potential rewards you might gain are predicated upon the potential effort you put into such a venture, no?

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#20 - 2013-09-17 15:35:32 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:

I guess it isn't worth hiding then; I do find her stubborn, bold, profoundly-proud, full of fire and spite ways cute and even a little attractive. Even when she's fussing that unless you're Caldari, you can't relate.

I find that fussing equally adorable.

I really do wonder when was the last time someone met that girl on her level, at gunpoint or more intimately so...


Perhaps you are more alike than you think.

You both remind me of the qualities I admire in my Syrikos Hounds. Loyal. Obedient. Accepting of the requirements of authority. Yet, when divorced from the strong hands of their master upon their leashes they become wild and prone to howl at the moon in rage and fury. Some believe them to be beyond saving at such a point, worthy only to be put down, but they do not understand that every hound needs a master to show them both affection and a guiding hand for such is their nature.

Your differences are only superficial to me. You both share the same pains of having been divorced from the requirements of obedience and authority to a figure you might be said to respect. If you share the same desires then why not desire each other?

Certainly, it might be said, the potential rewards you might gain are predicated upon the potential effort you put into such a venture, no?


I am a little curious where that comes from. I mean, with Miss Kim, I can see that. But myself, I've found I lack the capability to be loyal to anyone. That and it has been a long time since anyone has properly collared me.

I howl because I can't sit still, quiet in my little corner of spite, so I vent on occasion, more unable to help it than to make it my mission to. I would argue we're quite different.

I will still bite you, Miss Gesakaarin.

... but you might like it.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

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